Chain/Rope Hoist vs Lift (cherry picker)

[Dejure]

Not ME!!!! I end up parking something dead under it then I block that in with more dead projects ahead and behind it.

So your hoist is/would be a lot like that kitchen cabinet over the fridge. . . .

 

[Old Guy Bill]

I'm a hoist guy, and always have been. My first real job so many decades ago taught me how useful they can be.
I currently have a Jib style crane in my shop and am installing another in my new building.
I do have a large heavy motor picker... I believe it has an outboard motor hanging on it the last five or six years at my dads home.

 

[Turbo4whl]

Yeah, that storage thing is becoming a noticeable issue. Between the recently added over-engine creeper, the existing under-rig creeper, the engine stand, and parts storage, it's, all, starting to compromise my hording abilities.

Not ME!!!! I end up parking something dead under it then I block that in with more dead projects ahead and behind it.

Yes, garage is so full I work in the driveway. Winter time is a drag but more room outside.


So I guess it qualifies as a mobile cherry picker,

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1955 Holmes 330 bed accessory to go in my 1956 3800 long bed.

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[Fat 454]

Would kill a Holmes twin boom for my K30 .. lovely ( interesting side note - if you watched the latest Mad Max movie - Furiousa - the twin boom holmes on the truck was for sale over here before they built all the movie vehicles, but I missed out on getting it .. )

Also in the club of too much hoarding and working outside due to "dead" projects in storage - must be a t shirt design in there somewhere ?..

We make do with a collapsable cherry picker, however would definitely go for a chain block if the barn had the height and length to build in a supporting frame - all a matter of $ I guess ( which would mean less projects and more building .. )

 

[YakkoWarner]

I've used both - a really stout outdoor overhead beam with an A frame on each end welded up out of scrapped electrical tower angle iron with a massive I-beam (not copyrighted by Apple yet) across - my father and I picked up a lot of stuff with that thing including a whole truck on one occasion. Unfortunately when he passed I had no way to transport or store it. Also almost dropped an MGB engine on my head with it one weekend.....

My friend Dave had the 2 posts supporting a reinforced garage rafter, lifted everything from MGB engines to complete BBC/TH400 combos. I was a litle afraid of it because the rest of his garage was slowly falling down, but that reinforced beam and the 2 posts was solid.

I like and see a need for both. Right now I have a cherry picker because I have no place to build/use/store an overhead hoist. A good overhead hoist can be used to take a bed or cab off a frame (or anything else that can go straight up), with vehicles where you need to move the vehicle back as the engine/trans combo comes up and out, a cherry picker seems easier.

 

[Dejure]

Ordered a hoist from Northern the other day.

I got a whole lot of OSB from the discard piles around the house being built next door. Enough pieces I was able to cover the West, 30' wall, lay some over rafters at the east wall to store an 60's peddle car, Gobo lights, gas torches, trumpet, trombone. . . . and beef up the rafter joints.

Spent yesterday and today cutting OSB for wood plates over factory minimums.

 

[Turbo4whl]

Would kill a Holmes twin boom for my K30

I almost bought a twin screw 1981 GMC with a Holmes 850 twin boom but I could not find a place to store it. Couldn't park it at he house. It was cheap enough. Would have been a truck show piece!

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an 60's peddle car

It was hiding, but I found it!

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[Dejure]

Haaa!

People from around the U.S. used to send toys to my dad for restoration. My brother has the cool pedal cars and plane (first one to the estate and all). This is one them pappy restored, before he passed. Sadly, the house is too small to display it.

 

[Dejure]

Education, again and again, proves to be an endless thing.

As I look into the minute details of resorting to a hoist, versus relying on a cherry picker and what the factory provides, it becomes obvious nothing is as simple as it seems, if you want to do it well, safely and effectively.

As my posts indicate, I was beefing up the trusses that were not even designed to be load bearing for simple storage purposes.

From there, I considered obvious things like, a metal or aluminum plate over the lambeam I made, to stop the chain from eating away at it.

Next came searching a means of mounting a hoist, and the rabbit trails just grew. Hell, I had no clue of things like, grade 47, grade 70, grade 80 and grad 120 chains, or that anything less than 80 was not to be used to hoist, even though it was fine being employed as a safety measure against loss of a not insignificant trailer and load, or securing that load.

Then came the matter of how to join those chains. Nope, resorting to a grade 8 bolt, a few washers and a nut wouldn't fly, if you wanted to keep you and what you were hoisting safe.

Yep, grade 80 needs grade 80 link methods (duh), but comes the question of what kind are the accepted industry standard.

"Grade 80 Hammerlock/Connex/Chain Connector: These are engineered and rated for connecting Grade 80 chain ends, forming part of chain slings and assemblies for lifting. They’re assembled by aligning the halves, inserting a bushing and pin, then driving the pin flush with a hammer. The connection is strong and secure for critical lifting applications."

 

[xm20k]

I have a 2-ton cherry picker converted from hydraulic to air and a 2.5-ton chain hoist that has both the chain and ratcheting arm to operate it. The hoist I can't use in the current garage not enough height but I do have an adjustable swing set style frame so I can use it basically anywhere as long as you can roll the vehicle out from under it. The old place had a 3" diameter 1/4 wall section of DOM Tubing anchored in the V of 4 doubled-up rafters to run the hoist from. Also never had that bay blocked in as it was a 4-bay garage so plenty of room to park and work on my junk.

I miss my big garage. Can't park the truck in the current garage and close the door because the truck sticks out 2-3 feet. LOL Too much crap in there now to get the truck in there even if I wanted to at this point.

Considering building a bigger garage/pole building behind the current garage and taking this little garage down once it's done which would also give me more driveway space.

 

[waterpirate]

Education, again and again, proves to be an endless thing.

As I look into the minute details of resorting to a hoist, versus relying on a cherry picker and what the factory provides, it becomes obvious nothing is as simple as it seems, if you want to do it well, safely and effectively.

As my posts indicate, I was beefing up the trusses that were not even designed to be load bearing for simple storage purposes.

From there, I considered obvious things like, a metal or aluminum plate over the lambeam I made, to stop the chain from eating away at it.

Next came searching a means of mounting a hoist, and the rabbit trails just grew. Hell, I had no clue of things like, grade 47, grade 70, grade 80 and grad 120 chains, or that anything less than 80 was not to be used to hoist, even though it was fine being employed as a safety measure against loss of a not insignificant trailer and load, or securing that load.

Then came the matter of how to join those chains. Nope, resorting to a grade 8 bolt, a few washers and a nut wouldn't fly, if you wanted to keep you and what you were hoisting safe.

Yep, grade 80 needs grade 80 link methods (duh), but comes the question of what kind are the accepted industry standard.

"Grade 80 Hammerlock/Connex/Chain Connector: These are engineered and rated for connecting Grade 80 chain ends, forming part of chain slings and assemblies for lifting. They’re assembled by aligning the halves, inserting a bushing and pin, then driving the pin flush with a hammer. The connection is strong and secure for critical lifting applications."

Every rabbit hole comes with free education and a varying level of frustration before you get the rabbit.
Eric

 

[Rickf]

I have both. I used the gantry to hold up the lift arms on my skid steer when the cylinders needed to be re-sealed. I used the cherry picker to remove the bed off my K10.

 

[straydog371]

Here's my setup...my brother-in law and I built the 40'x40' barn 20+ years ago. During construction we set a couple of 6x6 treated posts to span 18' for the I-beam I had. If I remember correctly I found the trolley on Northern Tool. Chain hoist purchased on eBay a LONG time ago.
I also used it for raising the box off my K10 so I could clean and paint the frame, it worked slick!
Plenty of other uses...with a gambrel its handy for skinning deer.

 

[Dejure]

Saaaweeet.

Interestingly, there are two somewhat light weight, in the scheme of such, I-beams out back. They're only about 14' long and rusted, but not enough to have affected their potential use for some project like this. Someone dumped them in the "greenbelt," over a decade back, so they are free game. Was debating on adding one to the fray.

Since I'm still playing (I always prefer overkill over taking chances. I'll use three ratchet straps where most would use two, and so on), I may yet get that energetic.

 

[Dejure]

I have a 2-ton cherry picker converted from hydraulic to air and a 2.5-ton chain hoist that has both the chain and ratcheting arm to operate it. The hoist I can't use in the current garage not enough height but I do have an adjustable swing set style frame so I can use it basically anywhere as long as you can roll the vehicle out from under it. The old place had a 3" diameter 1/4 wall section of DOM Tubing anchored in the V of 4 doubled-up rafters to run the hoist from. Also never had that bay blocked in as it was a 4-bay garage so plenty of room to park and work on my junk.

I miss my big garage. Can't park the truck in the current garage and close the door because the truck sticks out 2-3 feet. LOL Too much crap in there now to get the truck in there even if I wanted to at this point.

Considering building a bigger garage/pole building behind the current garage and taking this little garage down once it's done which would also give me more driveway space.

and then there is dealing with Bugs B.