I'll agree with that. I have much much more experience with auto's than I do standards. I have done very few standards, and probably not enough to have the picture memory as I do with auto's since I seen them over and over and over. Repetition and Experiece go along way. I can pull a manual apart and put it back together. Bring it to me in a basket, you may as well throw it in the scrap pile. Turbo 350 and 400's, bring them to me in a million pieces and I'll put it together. I'd say the same about a 700r4, BUT those 700r4's had changes every single year, so its best to pull it apart to see which one you got, updgrade all the backward compatible changes you can, and very important to know what is backwards compatible and what's not or you will have built a pile of junk, so I do prefer to have a 700r4 in complete condition and take it 1 piece at a time. Somethings, and obviously like your situation with the 465, if I were there and doing it, my memory would would have been jogged and recalled what's what, but without being hands on, its tough to say. But, I also never had one jammed up like that and not able to come apart. I just recalled something about it having to be in reverse to come apart, and that part I was right about. Sure sorry I wasn't more help on that one. Transmissions are usually my forte', and if I don't know, I'll find out.