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I have a 1984 chevy k10 with the 6.2 diesel. Been having the front brakes locking up after about 20 to 30 miles. They will release after 30 to 60 minutes of not driving.. I have changed both calipers pads master cylinder and the hydroboost unit and both rubber brake lines to the calipers.
 

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Apply brakes then open bleeder on caliper. Is residual pressure present and when doing that do the rotors turn freer? Description sounds like something isn't allowing all the fluid to return. Takes very little pressure for disc brakes to drag.
 

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I had the same occasional problem on my 83 that had been converted from diesel to gas. Still.has the hydroboost. Bleeder test would work, but still frustrating. One time it happened, I loosened the two nuts holding the master to the hydroboost, and it released. I made a .1" spacer from aluminum and put it between the master and hydroboost. Haven't had the issue sice (about a year now).
 

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I had the same occasional problem on my 83 that had been converted from diesel to gas. Still.has the hydroboost. Bleeder test would work, but still frustrating. One time it happened, I loosened the two nuts holding the master to the hydroboost, and it released. I made a .1" spacer from aluminum and put it between the master and hydroboost. Haven't had the issue sice (about a year now).
If the pushrod is incorrectly adjusted between the booster and the master it can cause this also on vacuum booster brakes. Not a bad idea,never thought of just backing the nuts off a couple of turns while the brakes were dragging to see if the pressure released.
 

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Pushrod isn't adjustable on mine with the hydroboost. Fought the lock up issue for a while before trying this. Haven't had the issue since.
 

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If you do suspect wrong pushrod there is a tag wire procedure to check it.

Takes 2 people. Remove all the fluid in the master. With a small piece of wire insert in the smaller front port. If wire can't be easily inserted, you have found the problem. Have the helper VERY slowly with hand only push down on the pedal. At the same time move the wire up and down until there is drag on it. That is the distance the pedal travels until braking action starts.

BE VERY CAREFUL, if the pedal is pushed beyond the point of drag the master will be ruined.
 

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I have a 1984 chevy k10 with the 6.2 diesel. Been having the front brakes locking up after about 20 to 30 miles. They will release after 30 to 60 minutes of not driving.. I have changed both calipers pads master cylinder and the hydroboost unit and both rubber brake lines to the calipers.
I have had the brake hoses rust shut and not release pressure. This happened on the disc brakes on a '69 Camaro and the rear hose on my '80 Blazer. It was challenging to diagnose but, once I replaced the hoses, everything worked perfectly.
 

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Cdncarnut That is deteriorated rubber lines creating a flap valve interiorly stopping flow, it has nothing to do with rust, but it happens more than you would-GUESS? It also works the opposite where you can stand on the brakes and have very little because the pressure does not meet the wheel Cyl/Caliper
 

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ON A SIDE NOTE:

Last time I had to tamper with brakes was before the Net had the mass of information it has. So accessing critical information was no easy task. Going to a library wasn't going to be much help with most things back-yard-mechanic [and similar] related (people who never get dirty aren't the best source of information on maintenance and repairs of things they rely on day to day).

I'd bleed many a brake system on cars and trucks from the forties through the sixties, then fought my 70's Fairmont and learned things had been changed. I knew I had to deal with new brake systems, but didn't know much else. Knowing what I know now, it's amazing I even got the job done, and did not become bald [from pulling my hair out].

Having just upgraded our 03 Ranger to a 78 GMC C15 step side, I knew it was probable there were going to be things to tend to, to bring the new truck up to snuff. One of the first, obvious things was, the E-brake was worthless. This called for adjusting the rear brakes, then the cable.

A peek under the carriage revealed a sagging cable, with the brake released. Too, it revealed no one, in 48 years (my 2017 was released in 2016), removed the rear adjustment access hole knockouts and replaced them with rubber plugs.

In light of the foregoing, and noting other indicators previous owners were no among the cream-of-the-crop when it came to maintenance and repairs, my suspicions went to that fresh brake fluid would not be a bad idea.

After reading a bunch, so I could lessen the chances of a repeat of the hassles I suffered bleeding the brakes on my 74 Ford, I learned about the hassles of dealing with what everyone, except a few, were calling the proportioning valve [explaining why bleeding the brakes on that old 74 Ford was so much fun].

I learned experienced backyard and professional mechanics used an inexpensive tool to lock the control device in the center position, while bleeding the brakes (picture below), so it wouldn't activate and compromise the ability to bleed the front or back of the system.

A few had to move the sliding valve back to center, before installing the bleeder tool. Presuming the control device wasn't a rusted mess (frozen in place on one side or the other), that was not an overly difficult task, once access to the sliding valve notch was gained.

After the nut was removed, it was indicated they could feel the position of the valve with a small screw driver, and use it to move the notch in the slider of the valve to center, before installing the bleeder tool.

If the valve wouldn't move, then it might be it suffered the perils of rust, and that problem needed to be addressed [including the fluid swap].

When bleeding was done, the tool is removed and the access hole closed again.
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