Can anyone tell me what this is??

[PrairieDrifter]

The large majority of the country could benefit from safety inspections. I'm not going to be a big advocate of it though. Because too many folks with halfway decent vehicles will end up getting hassled over piddly nonsense because the inspector has an authority complex.

Exactly. And a shitbox can still be safe, if it's even driven on the road very much on the first place.

We also have a nice example right here about inspector complex

 

[Ricko1966]

Exactly. And a shitbox can still be safe, if it's even driven on the road very much on the first place.

We also have a nice example right here about inspector complex

Watch out!!! You'll get accused of lighting fires and eating boogers!!

 

[PrairieDrifter]

Watch out!!! You'll get accused of lighting fires and eating boogers!!

Nah I'm 15 and getting people killed!! Duh!

Crazy what people will say on the internet lol

 

[59840Surfer]

He has been labeled the douche of that family.

Hmmmmm .... a label I would wear proudly.

Rules are good --- that way you know where you stand and how that vehicle coming at you at 60 MPH would hit you at a combined speed of 120MPH if you are driving at the same speed, but something failed or fell off - whatever!

Knowing that they are driving a safe-rated vehicle is reassuring as long as everybody plays in the same ballpark.

The problem with rules is that they create a monster through legislation that just grows and grows and generates a lot of dislike among the players. This is a human - albeit: perverted - way of wielding power - and with power comes corrupted cash flow.

With corrupted cash flow comes anger among the users, and that's where the wheels fall off. Standards are good, though --- think of the testing of brake material and the steel holding the ball joints together and the rubber sealing dirt out and oil in.

If there were no standards - we'd be driving potential deathtraps - both to ourselves and everybody else we face on the highway.



I know that different people see things in different ways. Everyone has different experiences to build their worldview. For all we know, he is just using his experiences as a guidepost to help people he considers his confidants and friends feel safe and secure.

He is probably not looking for motivation or validation. What we might see as intrusive, he might see as "the truth" to guide his friends and family. Maybe he is just giving advice from his heart.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I really think his intentions are in the right place. You might cut him some slack. He does care about his private circle.
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[bucket]

Hmmmmm .... a label I would wear proudly.

Rules are good --- that way you know where you stand and how that vehicle coming at you at 60 MPH would hit you at a combined speed of 120MPH if you are driving at the same speed, but something failed or fell off - whatever!

Knowing that they are driving a safe-rated vehicle is reassuring as long as everybody plays in the same ballpark.

The problem with rules is that they create a monster through legislation that just grows and grows and generates a lot of dislike among the players. This is a human - albeit: perverted - way of wielding power - and with power comes corrupted cash flow.

With corrupted cash flow comes anger among the users, and that's where the wheels fall off. Standards are good, though --- think of the testing of brake material and the steel holding the ball joints together and the rubber sealing dirt out and oil in.

If there were no standards - we'd be driving potential deathtraps - both to ourselves and everybody else we face on the highway.



I know that different people see things in different ways. Everyone has different experiences to build their worldview. For all we know, he is just using his experiences as a guidepost to help people he considers his confidants and friends feel safe and secure.

He is probably not looking for motivation or validation. What we might see as intrusive, he might see as "the truth" to guide his friends and family. Maybe he is just giving advice from his heart.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I really think his intentions are in the right place. You might cut him some slack. He does care about his private circle.
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Well, dang. I saw you were here and had posted and I got excited because I am legitimately wondering how you answer my questions. But you are just beating around the bush so far.

So how does one of those old style brake controllers use a larger volume of fluid than two rear brake cylinders on rear drum brakes that are just ever so slightly out of adjustment?

Can you provide us with a copy or link to the law that states they are illegal for use on a dual circuit brake system?

 

[PrairieDrifter]

Hmmmmm .... a label I would wear proudly.

Rules are good --- that way you know where you stand and how that vehicle coming at you at 60 MPH would hit you at a combined speed of 120MPH if you are driving at the same speed, but something failed or fell off - whatever!

Knowing that they are driving a safe-rated vehicle is reassuring as long as everybody plays in the same ballpark.

The problem with rules is that they create a monster through legislation that just grows and grows and generates a lot of dislike among the players. This is a human - albeit: perverted - way of wielding power - and with power comes corrupted cash flow.

With corrupted cash flow comes anger among the users, and that's where the wheels fall off. Standards are good, though --- think of the testing of brake material and the steel holding the ball joints together and the rubber sealing dirt out and oil in.

If there were no standards - we'd be driving potential deathtraps - both to ourselves and everybody else we face on the highway.



I know that different people see things in different ways. Everyone has different experiences to build their worldview. For all we know, he is just using his experiences as a guidepost to help people he considers his confidants and friends feel safe and secure.

He is probably not looking for motivation or validation. What we might see as intrusive, he might see as "the truth" to guide his friends and family. Maybe he is just giving advice from his heart.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I really think his intentions are in the right place. You might cut him some slack. He does care about his private circle.
'

Definitely the douche of the family.

How about instead of being a panzy and saying "he", you @ quote who it is like a man.

What cash flow dude? Are you crazy? Sounds like you're just commenting to not "lose" which is making it worse for you hahaha

You're also saying a whole lot of words for not actually saying anything lolol. You're basically saying it's corruption? Lololololol you're the corruption guy.

Not a single rebuttal has been made by you yet.

Manufacturing laws? Duh. That's why they exist, you would think they would put out some info on this subject if it was so dangerous? Hmmm

YOU STILL HAVENT produced a single law or any information about why it should not be done. Acts like a know it all but still doesn't understand hydraulics lol.

This conversation is over for me.

You're just an ignorant know it all boomer. Ex inspector, you're washed up and never knew that much in the first place, only what "daddy" and the pamphlet told you. Then you spew your wrong opinion as fact and proceed to be a condescending asshole to strangers online.

Now you've reached babble stage where you just say words without actually saying anything at all... I'll make sure I spread the info about hydraulic controllers for the next 50 years Your ass will be gone in less than 10 so oh well!!

 

[ButchM]

Hmmmmm .... a label I would wear proudly.

I'm thinking someone missed the subtleties in the flow of the thread.

 

[bigcountry78]

At the risk of getting attacked here, I’m gonna dip my toe in the water. I vaguely remember reading somewhere that this type of brake controller, that plumbs into the brake reservoir, have been made illegal. The reason being that it could be a problem if installed incorrectly, and if it fails and springs a leak, then you have lost your fluid and your vehicle braking altogether.

Now, don’t shoot the messenger. I personally do not know of any cases where that has happened. But, I have to believe that IF they are actually illegal, then there had to be enough evidence to warrant the change to be made. I can definitely see how it could happen, especially on a cheaper setup that may not have been built to the same standards that the OEM put into the brake system originally. And, you have to consider the level of competence that the installer has. Did he actually do it correctly? I would hope so given that he is monkeying around with the brakes in the first place. Something to think about though.

 

[Sad Sack]

...wow, I'm going back to "Funny Stuff from the Internet".

 

[AuroraGirl]

But, I have to believe that IF they are actually illegal, then there had to be enough evidence to warrant the change to be made.

actually no this is a fairly weak bar for any politician
Without getting into politics , government has attempted and continues to attempt to ban ideas by law , and if you have critical thinking skills it doesnt take much power to realize how backwards and pointless that is , and is based on no grounded benefit other than to waste time and chill opposition/speech/expression.

So a political body banning a device based on a uninformed or incomplete understanding of a niche component is very believeable, especially when its included in much larger laws as a rider.

however I do see the possibility of them being illegal under the broad definitions of NHTSA rulemaking, even as a accidental or incidental thing rather than deliberate. Kinda like how a car can have no visibility out of the rear of the vehicle from the driver seat, have a camera that provides that view, but the car must still be equipped with a rearview mirror.

clearly, the rearview mirror being required isnt because its a boon to mirror manufacturers but the spirit of the regulation was made when it was just a given that you would have a rear window and thus the requirement for a mirror was made for safety consideration to that end.

A similar thing could be related to brake systems/hydraulic circuits that incidentally clashes and thus arent allowed anymore. Im gonna try and research a bit