Any such thing as a good Service Manual?

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Speaking of a book one holds in their hand and turns actual paper pages.
Would appreciate any known info on one and maybe where one can be found.

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My preference is a factory service manual and a Haynes manual. If a factory manual is unattainable I can get by with just Haynes and some internet searching.
 

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I hate Haynes manuals, they try to speak English, but they use funny words that nobody knows the meaning of .....
For me, factory shop manual is the ONLY way to go.
Plus, the factory manual covers things that no other manual will, and often (as is my case) it even has the wiring diagrams.
 

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Any manual is better than no manual. Some of the factory manuals are available in the reference library on this site. But prior to having access to factory manuals I had a Chilton which I found to be acceptable. I later picked up a Haynes manual. I found a lot of the procedural stuff to be lacking, but there was more reference information like torque specs and wiring diagrams. Between the two I felt like I had a fairly complete library.

Also, while I would be the last person to suggest that you don't need a manual, these trucks are from the end of the era when you could figure most things out by looking at them. It's not a matter of life or death to have a specific manual.
 

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Also, while I would be the last person to suggest that you don't need a manual, these trucks are from the end of the era when you could figure most things out by looking at them. It's not a matter of life or death to have a specific manual.

Yes sir, I do agree that these trucks are pretty much common sense, something about them I truly enjoy! Have a rear end to go through (be my first) and there is an execelent write up here on that. Also looking at building some engines, machining and all ( may need more machines??) so looking for specific specs and tolerances.
 

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Yes sir, I do agree that these trucks are pretty much common sense, something about them I truly enjoy! Have a rear end to go through (be my first) and there is an execelent write up here on that. Also looking at building some engines, machining and all ( may need more machines??) so looking for specific specs and tolerances.

The factory manual for the rears is excellent, as long as you're using factory tools and parts.

Personally I've always wondered if there wasn't a separate manual for machining that had much more specific information than bore sizes, like center spacing and reference points to use for deck alignment etc.
 

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The factory manual for the rears is excellent, as long as you're using factory tools and parts.

Personally I've always wondered if there wasn't a separate manual for machining that had much more specific information than bore sizes, like center spacing and reference points to use for deck alignment etc.

I certiantly do not know?? I would think a good manual would have them as well, because with out them how could one check to see if the engine is with in tolerance? Have a Haynes manual, and all the info on the interweb, but seems you just have to pick the one you believe? Read the Haynes, and then 4 different web sites and one has 5 different figures???
 

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I certiantly do not know?? I would think a good manual would have them as well, because with out them how could one check to see if the engine is with in tolerance? Have a Haynes manual, and all the info on the interweb, but seems you just have to pick the one you believe? Read the Haynes, and then 4 different web sites and one has 5 different figures???


Just go with the philosophy "There's only one way it can go together and work right" and 90% of the time, it'll be good enough.
 

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Speaking of a book one holds in their hand and turns actual paper pages.
Would appreciate any known info on one and maybe where one can be found.

Thanks

Shakey
I found a nice gently used factory service manual on eBay. $25
 

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Just go with the philosophy "There's only one way it can go together and work right" and 90% of the time, it'll be good enough.

normally that is correct. Though, when dealing with end plays and heat expansion etc... and building a hot rod engine that you want to last, good enough isn't always good enough.....
 

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I found a nice gently used factory service manual on eBay. $25

Thanks and yes sir..... ebay on my box has changed to some sort of app format, or has changed all together, and is a struggle for me to navagate now. Guess, I better quit whining and get to learning how to navagate the damn thing!!
 

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I found a nice gently used factory service manual on eBay. $25

Thanks and yes sir..... ebay on my box has changed to some sort of app format, or has changed all together, and is a struggle for me to navagate now. Guess, I better quit whining and get to learning how to navagate the damn thing!!
 

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And when you get to be my age, and all those tidbits of automotive information once stored in the brane start to leak out and dissipate into the ozone, the good shop manual is priceless.
 

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