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I’m baaaaaack.

Did some brake line work today. Trying to get this project rolling again.

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Long story short on this project is that I ended up with temporary shop space that was more like storage... I didn't advance the project for a year, then ended up with a knee replacement and other parts of life taking over. I'm now getting back to working on this thing and hope to move it along over the next two months. I figure if I write this I might actually get moving.
 

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Did some work on the engine to get ready for cam break in. Installed the PS pump. Also separated the front clip for paint and refresh. I think my path to completion is to focus on getting the engine and brakes going, then it's movable around the shop... then I can do the jamb painting and get the body panels back on for sand and shoot.

It will move forward.
 

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Got the accessory drives and belts done. Installed the headers. Progress.
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Made some progress on brakes, core support, and hoses. I did fluid fills, wired up the engine temporarily and did cam break in today. Ran ok. Oil pressure dropped slowly as she warmed up so I have something to look out for. I kept an old filter on it so I’m hopeful it was a flow issue or just heat (but the engine never got overly hot).

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Made some progress on brakes, core support, and hoses. I did fluid fills, wired up the engine temporarily and did cam break in today. Ran ok. Oil pressure dropped slowly as she warmed up so I have something to look out for. I kept an old filter on it so I’m hopeful it was a flow issue or just heat (but the engine never got overly hot).

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You do know oil pressure drops as the engine heats up. Clearances change and the oil thins out. You may not have a problem at all.
 

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You do know oil pressure drops as the engine heats up. Clearances change and the oil thins out. You may not have a problem at all.
Oh yeah. I’m well aware. I just didn’t like how it behaved today. We’ll see. Good news is it ran and revved nicely.
 

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turns out my oil pressure gauge (electronic) was hit or miss on contact. Got in there and tightened the connection, started up again at 60 psi.

8 seconds of running.

Not quite purring yet but running nice w open headers, and I have a long way to go before I worry about tuning it.
 
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Here’s a weird one: you can see from the video above that the motor was responsive to throttle after break in.

Well, I have started the motor a few times since (just can’t help myself) and it has progressively gotten more and more cantankerous. I figure it was carb tuning and was battling a secondary float level issue that I just assumed was loading it up so that it would quit.

Well, I got that issue fixed. And the motor just wouldn’t idle well or respond to throttle. It’s a true mess.

Last night I realized I had a a couple of cold pipes on the headers while trying to get the thing to run. So…. I pulled a valve cover in fear of what I’d find (thinking wiped cam)…. Turns out I have a bunch of poly locks that are loose. Rockers loose all over. I could spin a couple of the poly locks with my fingers.

Anybody ever been so stupid as to not lock down rockers? I think that’s me. I’m hopeful this is the issue, but sitting here just figuring I would post an “L” for the group to comment on.

To be clear: not my first rodeo on valve adjustment, just the first time I’ve cocked one up this bad. I am hoping I haven’t bent anything up. I’ll dive in sometime this week. Didn’t have time to get to it last night.
 

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Well… shoot.

Turned out only one or two valves were a little loose, so I went through and adjusted all.

Now I’m pretty sure my motor is bad. I took a chance on it. Long story less long: installed a new cam a couple years ago, but never did the break in. Ended up in storage for quite a while.

Finally did the break in as noted a few posts back (primed it like crazy before turning it over). Thought it lost oil pressure but then thought my gauge had come loose. Then realized I couldn’t get any kind of idle or acceleration after the day of the breakin. Got progressively worse.

So today I got to it. No (zero) compression on cylinder 1. So, I removed the rockers and gave the valves a cycle (just a bump with a hammer to ensure nothing stuck), then adjusted the rockers back onto the valves. Zero compression.

Then hooked up cylinder 1 to a leak down tester. Ran 80 lbs and only held about 20. With my stethoscope I heard nothing coming out of intake or exhaust, and the sound out of the dipstick tube was loud. It isn’t the valves.

Sooo. I tested cylinder 3 to similar result. I realize cold leak down isn’t really kosher, but neither is 75 plus percent leak down. I figured I must have had something fry the cylinder walls. Either that or the motor was on its way out when I pulled it. It did not run great.

Darn it. Now to think about plan b.

EDIT: now that I have cooled off a bit and done some sleuthing, I’m wondering if this phenomenon could be stuck rings from gunk in the engine breaking loose after the break in and progressively crudding up the rings? Anyone have any experience with rings sticking after running a motor that hadn’t been run for a few years?

EDIT 2: All is not lost. First off, I realized my compression tester is toast. No way I could have zero or almost zero on every cylinder. So my read was invalid. Also, as I pulled the plugs all were thoroughly carbon fouled, which explains the progressive loss of function after breakin. I’m soaking the cylinders presently in some atf just to ensure I didn’t wash them too badly. I realized after break in that I had a stuck secondary float, and while trying to sort that out im now thinking I fouled the motor badly, and then got spooked by my bad compression tester. I’m rejecting the cold leak down test given all this. More hopeful after reflecting on it. We’ll see this week. Too much drama.
 
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Good news (as I have been posting in my holly/QF question thread)... Nemo's motor is back up and running. Ended up with a long saga on the carb that went from rebuild to a recurrent leaky secondary needle / seat. Luckily this was all rooted in that (it fouled plugs, I mistook that for a base motor problem, and luckily only threw $$$ at a carb kit).

Finally got that together and am able to move back on with getting this truck back together. It's like a project that refuses to move forward.
 

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Got in there and did some grinding and cleanup on the rockers from my floor install and inner rocker welding. I had poked thru in a few spots (almost 3 years ago now) and had to clean it up.

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I also removed the windshield because I didn’t really like the state of the rubber gasket. I wasn’t sure how bad I’d find the window channel and I’d say it wasn’t as bad as they can be, so I’ll get to clean that up before paint.

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I got out ye olde flap disk and worked on the windshield channel. Some before and after pics on bot sides here. The passenger side was pitted way worse than driver, but I’m gonna throw some evaporust on the remaining pits and just prime from there.

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