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Wheel bearing replacement.

Discussion in 'Suspension, Steering & Brakes' started by Irishman999, Apr 11, 2011.

  1. Grit dog

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    ^No, idk why the OP referred to the inner race as being replaceable.
    Outer race press fits into the hub. Inner race is attached to the bearing assembly and rides directly on the spindle.
     
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    Nice writ up OP! I’m sure that will be helpful to many folks.
    FWIW, if anyone live around me and needs to practice, I’ll volunteer my truck, shop, new Parts, tools and beer. You can practice on my ‘86!
    Just did the old Jeep a couple months ago, so I’m all refreshed up on it already, lol.
     
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    My bad, I derped on that, I was thinking of outer race but two bearings, is there 2 that press in?

    What im saying, is, will not replacingthem do something or would they show signs? I have a theory the problem in my f150 could be related since it would have a similar design
     
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    If you disassemble the front hub it will be apparent. Each bearing has an outer race that is press fit. (But doesn’t require a press)
    And no, you don’t generally want to run new bearings in old races unless it’s in a pinch or you can verify there’s no wear on the race. (In which case the bearings are likely still good too).
     
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    good to know.

    Would a race with wear show any signs driveability wise?

    let me rephrase, would a worn race with a old bearing show wear/driveability issues that a brand new bearing in a new race wouldnt show
     
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    Yes they may show signs of pitting or more commonly heat damage. I always replace the bearings completely unless as stated earlier broke down on side of the road
     
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    But could you notice in how it drives. my truck "tracks" and it feels like the wheels are moving side to side more than the suspension parts would be(which also need work) but if this could cause that, maybe i shouldnt touch any parts until im ready to do them all
     
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    Jack front tire off ground, check for lateral play by grasping the tire at the 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock position. Any play would indicate either worn or loose bearings

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    Sooo.... how about if you have a new hub... guessing they dont just pre-put races in there, huh? bet that would have some lateral play...

    I may have some work to do.
     
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    ^???
    Less internet and more wrenching could do wonders.
     
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    Well grit dog, im sorry you say that because ive learned most of what i know from the internet. We all dont have the luxury of having somoene guide us in our youth on how to do things or vast arrays of books that provide detailed procedures. There is a certain level of knowledge that you entered your life of trucks with that I had nothing except what i could physically figure out by looking at things or research on the internet.

    Im trying very hard to understand a lot of concepts and subjects that i didnt know existed 2 years ago let alone 5 months ago. I also do this with a 50 hour a week exhausting job.

    Its also insanely hot as shit and we have a lot of bugs, so i dont care to wrench on things when its such dog days like this.

    But maybe just maybe I can learn how to properly do something from a forum about wheel bearings and apply that to my own applications.
    Ive replaced three wheel hubs on vehicles with spindles. 2 were 2wd, 1 was 4wd.

    I also had no reason to NOT think i needed mroe knowledge when i did the first, because i was shown by someone who clearly didnt know that part.

    And I have no idea if my new hubs come with races pressed in or not, I just dont. I dont see why they would, but i could also see why they would.

    And If I put something on my vehicle incorrectly, I would like to FIX That properly.


    My opinion, understanding I didnt do it right and fixing it or going back for the proper thing is a lot better than just assuming you did it right and rejecting the idea it was imperfect, as to suggest you are susceptible to defect or mistakes.
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    I’m gathering you put a new hub on something? Your F150 ?
    And new bearings but didn’t install bearing races in the hubs? Yes that would induce ALOT of lateral play or just simply destroy the bearings. IDK as I’ve never tried to run a vehicle like that.
    Or I could be totally off base because you’re hard to follow.
    But you seem to make every query like a mystery where we the audience can’t guess what you’re going to ask or say next. Sometimes pertinent to the discussion, sometimes or in left field.
    Contrary to what you think, I and others ARE trying to help you. BUT in the short couple months I’ve been on this board, you’ve probably posed 100 different questions about 100 different issues or situations and as quick as it starts, you’re on to the “next” issue without solving or even digging into the original issue.
    Hence my sarcasm sometimes.
    Generally when someone posts a question about AN issue, they are actively workin on it and their intention is to fix it and move along. Not ask about 1 thing then another then another then wait what is this unrelated thing in my parts pile then wait what about this other issue then, then, then.....
    By the time you get help or suggestions about 1 thing, yoube moved on to something else without resolving the first thing.
    Don’t use “working an exhausting 50 hr a week job” as an excuse. That’s an excuse and nothing more. If you want or need to fix up your “fleet”, do it. 1 thing at a time. Solve one problem and move onto the next one. Or you’ll be asking about the same chit next year and the year after.
    And you know nothing about my background. Although we all know your background because you spend more time telling us about that than fixing your vehicles. That was my point in my previous post.

    Don’t worry, you won’t get under my skin. I just try to be helpful and will try to help you or anyone else tomorrow just the same as today.
    But in order for anyone’s help to be beneficial to you, you actually have to not only listen but act on it.
    Cheers, good luck fixing this repair or whichever repair is most urgent.
     
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    I will use it as an excuse, because it wears me out.
    Everything I learn is helping me understand more, and when I Get time I work on issues. For example, i have a headlight retainer and fuel pump on order as well as a fuel filter(free one with edelbrock literally is dissolving with 91 100% Unleaded). But as of late, ive been spending my time fixing my daily because that takes priority on a list where the square is the plow truck.
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    But with the time I can spend here, I can learn more and understand far more going ahead, so times i can do projects and spend time Its spent 1) efficiently 2) comfortably.

    for example, way back when i did my tailight harness i did the wirign and soldering and joining inside my house when it was -30 out, and when it got a tad warmer like 15 degrees, i actually put it on and was very quick and easy, because of my research.

    I have a lot of problems to fix, and not much time to manage them. I also have little background to many of these systems from the last few years of wrenching. everything is taught myself, but most of my knowledge came from fwd automatic sedans with OBD systems, fuel injection, computers, luxuries, aftermarket plug and play, etc. SUspensions with entirely different setups. engine bays i could reach things. Not much of that truly applied when it came to the trucks.
    And i put new hubs on f150 and 1 on the square. reused bearings(seemed fine, no scores) but had new hubs. didnt even know or think about outer races, not even when it came to research for the square. nothing i looked up mentioned it, which isnt anyone here fault but i was ignorant to the fact, so how could i have checked it?

    but i know it now. and want to understand it, so when i go in for u joints i can do it correctly because i, to your surprise, care about doing things right. At least not half-assed, like using a pen to fix a vac tube

    edit: and the only person who i seem to havee issue with is you, grit. but thats never started by me. Vbb, bucket, hotrod, lego, olds, 79, etc all have given advice, input, context that ive used or will be using to help fix my stuff. and sometimes my ignorance helps bring out information, like where i found the heater hose routing in my shop manual and it was helpful to a few. or oil cooler location for bucket. Sometimes i have spare parts laying around that can help see what was "stock" because its untouched, like a fuse panel or factory buckets long ago.

    I have a wealth of stuff in my hands, but lack all the required info to use it. Comfortably. And i wish I had more time, like working 1st shift instead or just less hours but COVID really fucked that.

    I may seem like i dont take anything said seriously, but we all understand how we have ideas in the pipeline, yes? my pipe just happens to reduce to a 1 inch outlet and has a lot of buildup and blockage that will take time to sort through.

    This and my squares are my escape from reality. And unfortunately reality has a lot of obligations, responsibilities, expectations, stresses, demons, and new things to throw at me on the daily basis.

    SOMETHING ALWAYS NEEDS FIXING.
    Tomorrow its the John Deere because it wont keep RPM with blades engaged. Well, in 4 hours... and look at the time its well past sleep
     
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    Edit. Long response that would have been taken as an affront, so deleted.

    wheel bearing running straight on the hub will not last long at all and will or has screwed up the new Hub. Stop driving those vehicles before further damage occurs.
     
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    And sorry OP for adding to the derailment of this thread.
     

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