Sbc 350 fuel problems

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That could make sense as it only runs for 5 mins or so, what’s my best way to check that?
 

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Wait....

This could be real simple. It happened to my dad once.

He lost the fuel cap, so he put plastic on the fill tube and rubber banded it in place. The tank created a vacuum and then the engine would starve for fuel. Let it sit for a bit and then it would run again for a few miles than stall out.

A bad cap or plugged vent can do the same thing.

So to test it, just remove the gas cap and try running it again.
 

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Wait....

This could be real simple. It happened to my dad once.

He lost the fuel cap, so he put plastic on the fill tube and rubber banded it in place. The tank created a vacuum and then the engine would starve for fuel. Let it sit for a bit and then it would run again for a few miles than stall out.

A bad cap or plugged vent can do the same thing.

So to test it, just remove the gas cap and try running it again.
That idea ran through my mind too, I tried blowing air through the lines and selector back to the tank and it’s running now, drove to work today and seems to be fine other than a stubble around 1000rpm but doesn’t die(could be accelerator pump adjustment though) might cut the selector right out of the system even to eliminate potential later problems, and might try to blow out that vent on the tank as well while I’m at it
 

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Well I got it all going after blowing out the lines and bypassing the selector valve and was able to drive it around for a little bit. I dropped it off at my local speed shop this morning for a quick tune to make sure everything was good and squeeze a bit of power out of it and it drove it home fine and seemed to be running great (other than the stumble around 1000rpm when slowly accelerating) but he was leaving the next day so he only had a few hours to look at it and he normally tries to help me learn and let me do what I’m capable of to save some money. So he said go home and clean the bowls as the fuel that came out looked a bit dirty. After I did that it still had the stumble, cleaned it once more and messed around with vacuum lines making sure there was no leaks and then it died on me again and now will run for a few mins and quit(or not at all) it’s getting fuel now but also gives me the odd backfire, runs very rough, but whenever I check the fuel lines, filter, bowls they are full, very confused again now
 

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Wait....

This could be real simple. It happened to my dad once.

He lost the fuel cap, so he put plastic on the fill tube and rubber banded it in place. The tank created a vacuum and then the engine would starve for fuel. Let it sit for a bit and then it would run again for a few miles than stall out.

A bad cap or plugged vent can do the same thing.

So to test it, just remove the gas cap and try running it again.
haven’t quite fixed the problem yet but just found that this a what my gas is looking like so think it’s safe to say this has to be at least part of the problem.
 

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haven’t quite fixed the problem yet but just found that this a what my gas is looking like so think it’s safe to say this has to be at least part of the problem.




It is surprisingly common. A week or two back, the same issues was discovered through this forum on someone's truck.

A few days ago I picked up a non-running small engine. The fuel was half water. Replaced the fuel and its good to go.
 

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It is surprisingly common. A week or two back, the same issues was discovered through this forum on someone's truck.

A few days ago I picked up a non-running small engine. The fuel was half water. Replaced the fuel and its good to go.
It fired right up today after draining the tank and ran great. I’ve heard some stories of water in fuel but never seen it to this extent, was just shocked mainly because of how much water there was. Kinda got me thinking for a sec if it was just a natural fluke or if it ended up there on purpose to get me to come back to the shop. But would be very shocking as the mechanic I went to has been very helpful and didn’t seem like that kinda guy but you never know anymore. Glad to hear this is somewhat common though as I would’ve been very shocked otherwise.

Thanks for all the help guys!
 

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There is really only 3 sources of water: Someone put it in there maliciously, the gas station was adding water to their underground fuel storage tanks (to boost profits), or your gas cap allowed rain to enter. I have seen all 3 happen before.
 

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There is really only 3 sources of water: Someone put it in there maliciously, the gas station was adding water to their underground fuel storage tanks (to boost profits), or your gas cap allowed rain to enter. I have seen all 3 happen before.
B S. Water gets there naturally if someone has disconnected the evap. and allows tank open to atmosphere. Fuel and water do not mix,you cannot add water to fuel to boost your profits. What's most likely going on the truck has sat for an extended period expansion and contraction of the fuel and air in the fuel tank has brought in moisture laden air, then through heat and cool the water condenses out,Repeat 9 million times and you end up with water in your fuel.It is worse with an empty tank than a full tank. Also with the tank venting to atmosphere,the lightest part of your fuel evaporates off first,without being trapped, leaving more of the water less of the fuel. Place a cool beverage on the counter on a warm day,watch the water droplets form on the side of the glass,that happens in your tank. When the truck sits still the water separates to the bottom,so unless you are picking up fuel from the bottom you will be picking up fuel.Start sloshing fuel,you start picking up the mix when the water level gets high enough you no longer pick up burnable fuel.Cars used to vent to atmosphere and pull fuel directly from the bottom of the tank,just like a motorcycle or lawn mower tank. It used to be super common that people had to put heat in their fuel in the winter,or be stuck with a frozen fuel line. Not common any more with the sealed gas tanks Anyone who thinks gas stations can add water to their fuel. Go get a glass jar from your kitchen pour in 4.5 inches of fuel and .5 inches of water. Shake it up,walk away come back in 12 hours the water will all be sitting at the bottom.
 
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There is really only 3 sources of water: Someone put it in there maliciously, the gas station was adding water to their underground fuel storage tanks (to boost profits), or your gas cap allowed rain to enter. I have seen all 3 happen before.
I did put 91 in the two times I filled up before this problem so good chance I got the bottom of the tank and was ****** gas. Hopefully that’s all it was and not someone messing with me lol
 
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