Need help with bed and cab line

[pattison87]

What would cause this to happen. Looking on the left hand side of the truck the body line doesnt line up and the bed gap is bigger on the bottom then the top. From behind you can see the cab leans to the left more. And on the right side the body line matches but again the bed gap is bigger on the bottom. I checked the body mount bushing and they are pretty bad. Would replacing these fix everything? Need some help please.

 

[Skweegle89]

It sure wouldn't hurt. Mine has the same problem. Sharp truck.


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[pattison87]

Thank you. Im hoping my frame isnt bent. I dont like the banana look. And do you know if there is a huge difference between soft and hard body bushings?

 

[chengny]

There is a TSB on this and a whole procedure on how to correct it.

I don't have time to put it all together right now - I'll post it tonight. Here is how it starts:


Suspension - Vehicle Trim Height Low on One Side


NUMBER: 86-B-74

GROUP: 3D - Rear Suspension

DATE: April, 1986
SUBJECT: VEHICLE TRIM HEIGHT LOW ON ONE SIDE

MODELS: 1973-1986 C/K TRUCKS
A condition may exist on certain C/K trucks where the vehicle appears to lean, usually to the driver's side. The following procedure can be used to repair this condition:

SERVICE PROCEDURE

1. Check for proper tire size and inflation and correct if necessary.

2. The vehicle must be empty, placed on a level shop floor and jounced to release any residual frictional loading in the suspension.

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3. Measure from ground to sheet metal at the top center of the front wheel opening on each side of the vehicle (see Figure No. 1). Repeat on the rear wheel openings.

4. If little difference is found (3/4 inch or less side to side), check the bumper and exterior trim alignment. Misaligned bumpers and trim could cause the vehicle to appear to lean even if it does not. Note that a full fuel tank can cause 1/2 inch difference side to side at the front wheel opening compared to when the fuel tank is empty.

If more than 3/4 inch difference is found, suspension measurements should be made as described below while the vehicle is sitting on the level floor (not on a lift).

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5. In the front, take measurements on each side from the top of the lower control arm bracket to the front suspension crossmember flange (see Figure No. 2a) on C models, or from the top of spring anchor plate to bottom of frame (see Figure No. 2b) on K models.

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6. In the rear, measure from the top of rear axle tube to the bottom of frame (see Figure No. 3), on each side.

7. Compare side to side measurements. The difference between each side should not exceed 3/8 inch at either the front or rear. Note that a full fuel tank can cause 1/4 inch difference in the rear suspension height as compared to an empty fuel tank.

 

[pattison87]

Thank you. Looking forward to the rest and any help i can get!

 

[RVMAN]

That looks like cab mounts.

 

[firebane]

Lots of people prefer to go the poly method for cab mounts but personally I'd rather go with rubber in a truck especially one that may see off road use.

The rubber mounts allows better movement and flexibility over poly mounts.

 

[pattison87]

Thanks for everyones replies. Ill replace those and give an update. How hard they to replace and how much do they cost average?

 

[MadOgre]

That looks like cab mounts.

X2. Could be a few other things adding to it as well like Jerry gave info on.

 

[chengny]

Just replacing the mounts alone won't make you look straight. The mounts are supposed to be the same height/thickness, so unless the mount(s) on one side are blown out, replacing them won't change the tilt effect.

It would be wise to renew them, but only as part of the shimming process. Read on:

If the difference is greater than 3/8 inch, check springs for correct part and proper installation. Replace incorrect springs. Also, on leaf springs, visually compare spring camber (arch) on the low side with the spring on the high side. The camber (arch) should be similar. Switch leaf springs from one side to the other and determine if this corrects the lean problem. If one spring is noticeably flatter than the other, replace the flatter spring or have the higher spring recambered to match the lower springs at a qualified spring rebuilder. The flatter spring cannot be recambered higher unless it is disassembled and each leaf is reformed and properly heated and quenched. This capability is not generally available apart from spring manufacturers. If a flat spring is cambered higher without heat treating, it will eventually flatten to its original state.

8. If springs have correct part numbers, the suspension can be leveled using standard spring shims available at spring shops. Shims are not to exceed a total of 1/2 inch.

9. If suspension is level and lean persists, check the body mounts. Inspect body mount cushions, check that they are not crushed or split, and replace as necessary.

10. If the condition has not been corrected by utilizing the above listed procedures, the body can be shimmed to level the trim height.

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11. The body can be most easily shimmed by loosening all the body mounts and radiator support mounts, and shimming the rear body mount on the low side until the back is level. Body mount locations shown from the side of the vehicle and an example mount are shown in Figures No. 4a through 4d. Shim the middle body mounts on the low side only if necessary due to the space created by the rear shim. Tighten the body mounts using the following specifications:


Location Torque
C/K Pickup Cab Mounts 60-90 N-m (44-66 ft.lbs.)6 Forward Mounts on Suburban 4 Forward Mounts on K Jimmy
2 Radiator Supports 40-54 N-m (30-40 ft.lbs.)
C/K Pickup Bed Mounts 40-54 N-m (30-40 ft.lbs.)6 Rear Mounts on Suburban 4 Rear Mounts on K Jimmy

12. Step 11 can be repeated starting with the front low side mount and radiator support mount if necessary.