ls swap sm465 with headers now slave cylinder will not fit

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

Ricko1966

Full Access Member
Joined
Apr 11, 2017
Posts
6,577
Reaction score
11,208
Location
kansas
First Name
Rick
Truck Year
1975
Truck Model
c20
Engine Size
350
FWIW the pull type slave is not rocket science, I've seen the rear mount as crude as a piece of chain attached to the slave and the chain bolted to something solid. Usually the frame,not how I'd do it,but it has been done. Attached to the floor,the frame,a crossmember.
 

Steelbuddha

Full Access Member
Joined
Mar 16, 2024
Posts
54
Reaction score
60
Location
Central North Carolina
First Name
Jonathan
Truck Year
1984
Truck Model
K20 (dump bed)
Engine Size
350
Seems like unless your engine is built to make 500 HP, the difference between headers and aftermarket manifolds would be negligible. You could sell your headers and probably come out close to even, your slave would fit, and you wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel. Just my $.02.
 

Ricko1966

Full Access Member
Joined
Apr 11, 2017
Posts
6,577
Reaction score
11,208
Location
kansas
First Name
Rick
Truck Year
1975
Truck Model
c20
Engine Size
350
I call B.S. on headers only being good on big horsepower or at high rpms. I'm putting up 2 pics of dyno tests,both these had some of the best factory exhaust manifolds available. 1 was a stone stock 350 2bbl other than Corvette tubular rams horns. The other engine also had some of the best factory manifolds available 2.5 inch rams horns. These differences would have been even bigger,had they had factory 2.25 inch log manifolds. The zz3 engine loses like 30hp( I forget the exact number I think it was actually bigger) running factory manifolds vs dyno headers. As part of the HP. packages on factory engines,they got better exhaust manifolds. FYI There's a 10 hp difference between an lt1 Corvette and an LT 1 Camaro same engine only difference I'm aware of was Corvette had rams horns manifolds.
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot_2025-05-10_152007.jpg
    Screenshot_2025-05-10_152007.jpg
    89.7 KB · Views: 13
  • Screenshot_2025-05-10_152240.jpg
    Screenshot_2025-05-10_152240.jpg
    114.3 KB · Views: 12
  • Screenshot_2025-05-10_150555.jpg
    Screenshot_2025-05-10_150555.jpg
    118 KB · Views: 13
  • Screenshot_2025-05-10_150010.jpg
    Screenshot_2025-05-10_150010.jpg
    106.7 KB · Views: 13
Last edited:

bucket

Super Moderator
Staff member
Super Moderator
Joined
Aug 3, 2010
Posts
31,986
Reaction score
32,921
Location
Usually not in Ohio
First Name
Andy
Truck Year
'77, '78, '79, '84, '88
Truck Model
K5 thru K30
Engine Size
350-454
I call B.S. on headers only being good on big horsepower or at high rpms. I'm putting up 2 pics of dyno tests,both these had some of the best factory exhaust manifolds available. 1 was a stone stock 350 2bbl other than Corvette tubular rams horns. The other engine also had some of the best factory manifolds available 2.5 inch rams horns. These differences would have been even bigger,had they had factory 2.25 inch log manifolds. The zz3 engine loses like 30hp( I forget the exact number I think it was actually bigger) running factory manifolds vs dyno headers. As part of the HP. packages on factory engines,they got better exhaust manifolds. FYI There's a 10 hp difference between an lt1 Corvette and an LT 1 Camaro same engine only difference I'm aware of was Corvette had rams horns manifolds.

Lol, please repost this elsewhere. It seems to happen more and more often lately where someone posts "Headers only make more power at high rpm, on fully built engines". Or the worse one "Manifolds make more power at low RPM".

The results on big blocks tend to be even better than the small block too.
 

Ricko1966

Full Access Member
Joined
Apr 11, 2017
Posts
6,577
Reaction score
11,208
Location
kansas
First Name
Rick
Truck Year
1975
Truck Model
c20
Engine Size
350
Lol, please repost this elsewhere. It seems to happen more and more often lately where someone posts "Headers only make more power at high rpm, on fully built engines". Or the worse one "Manifolds make more power at low RPM".

The results on big blocks tend to be even better than the small block too.
Here's a couple more both dam near stock 305s. One has an isky 256 a performer man8fold and a 650 Holley,headers picked up 11 horsepower on a dynod 211hp engine. Other one was a guys daily driver,hobby drag car 1977 Malibu,basically stock 305 with 100k on the clock, look at his ETs he doesn't have dyno numbers.
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot_2025-05-11_093009.jpg
    Screenshot_2025-05-11_093009.jpg
    127.9 KB · Views: 15
  • Screenshot_2025-05-11_092909.jpg
    Screenshot_2025-05-11_092909.jpg
    106 KB · Views: 15
Last edited:

bucket

Super Moderator
Staff member
Super Moderator
Joined
Aug 3, 2010
Posts
31,986
Reaction score
32,921
Location
Usually not in Ohio
First Name
Andy
Truck Year
'77, '78, '79, '84, '88
Truck Model
K5 thru K30
Engine Size
350-454
Yep and while it's only 11hp, that's a difference that you can easily notice when you're short on HP to begin with.
 

Raybob9289

Full Access Member
Joined
Mar 3, 2021
Posts
76
Reaction score
124
Location
Littleton
First Name
Raybob
Truck Year
1977
Truck Model
Cheyenne 30
Engine Size
454
I know you don't wanna here it but go with the cast LS swap exhaust manifolds.
 

SquareRoot

Full Access Member
Joined
Mar 18, 2017
Posts
4,353
Reaction score
8,476
Location
Arizona
First Name
Mike
Truck Year
85
Truck Model
K20
Engine Size
350
An extra 10-15 hp ain't worth the headache on a street driven vehicle. And just because you can squeeze the slave cylinder in next to the collector don't expect it to last long when the heat :flame: fries the seals. Hmmmm...I wonder if hydraulic fluid is flammable :popcorn:
 
Last edited:

hoagster

Full Access Member
Joined
May 16, 2017
Posts
1,559
Reaction score
3,849
Location
California
First Name
Mike
Truck Year
1973, 2000
Truck Model
K10, 1500
Engine Size
5.3l
I had the reverse problem I have cast hooker manifolds and they get in the way of non hydraulic clutch. Took some doing but got it solved. Hang in there someone has out there has solved it!

You must be registered for see images attach
 

Forum statistics

Threads
45,656
Posts
988,710
Members
38,754
Latest member
dmcelhan
Top