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As one of the newer members who frequent here, a lot of times I don’t have enough knowledge to contribute on certain topics, so I don’t say anything. Bad information is worse than no information. I will comment if it’s something along my journey, but I stay in my lane.

I’m extremely thankful that others take the time to comment or give direction. Part of the reason I started my own engine build thread was because of inspiration from others due to their threads.

I see lots of interaction here, which is good, and a reasonable amount of tolerance. I can’t say the same thing about the HAMB. That place was awful to try to contribute. Either you got shouted down by an old timer or outright ignored. That doesn’t happen here.

I hope this site continues to thrive, and no doubt it is kept buoyant by the popularity of the square. They’ve gone from being an everyday throw away truck to something that people value.

I for one appreciate all the responses and respect I see on the site.
 

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As one of the newer members who frequent here, a lot of times I don’t have enough knowledge to contribute on certain topics, so I don’t say anything. Bad information is worse than no information. I will comment if it’s something along my journey, but I stay in my lane.

I’m extremely thankful that others take the time to comment or give direction. Part of the reason I started my own engine build thread was because of inspiration from others due to their threads.

I see lots of interaction here, which is good, and a reasonable amount of tolerance. I can’t say the same thing about the HAMB. That place was awful to try to contribute. Either you got shouted down by an old timer or outright ignored. That doesn’t happen here.

I hope this site continues to thrive, and no doubt it is kept buoyant by the popularity of the square. They’ve gone from being an everyday throw away truck to something that people value.

I for one appreciate all the responses and respect I see on the site.
This place is definitely one of a kind.

A gold mine for the quickly rising number of people flocking to older vehicles with the trash they're putting out these days. Not square specific completely either, from axle and engine info, to wiring/theory and just general gear head ideas.

This is still the internet! People will get offended and there will be arguments. Some people are deserving of an ass chewing, most are not. The internet still needs shame and thick skin.

I think a lot of the lounge type threads help keep this place alive too, we may be gearheads and square lovers, but that always comes with extras. Cool old stuff, cool tools, guns, other cool vehicles, stories. Basically just a dude hang out lol.

Pretty cool to think that all of the generally active people here from all over the country and even the world, can come here and just bs and keep these old trucks that built this country going.

There is actual productivity coming from this place, people getting helped, acquaintances made, bs'in happenin, trucks being saved. We're as green as any liberal could imagine they are!
 

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As one of the newer members who frequent here, a lot of times I don’t have enough knowledge to contribute on certain topics, so I don’t say anything. Bad information is worse than no information. I will comment if it’s something along my journey, but I stay in my lane.

I’m extremely thankful that others take the time to comment or give direction. Part of the reason I started my own engine build thread was because of inspiration from others due to their threads.

I see lots of interaction here, which is good, and a reasonable amount of tolerance. I can’t say the same thing about the HAMB. That place was awful to try to contribute. Either you got shouted down by an old timer or outright ignored. That doesn’t happen here.

I hope this site continues to thrive, and no doubt it is kept buoyant by the popularity of the square. They’ve gone from being an everyday throw away truck to something that people value.

I for one appreciate all the responses and respect I see on the site.
Yep, sites like HAMB and one of the worst, Pirate 4x4 is what this place has been the 100 opposite of. It's been steered away from being like those sites since day 1. What you're doing is exactly what we'd prefer and it benefits you more than anymore. You can do your engine thread and you'll get tips, tricks, and suggestions along the way and corrected if you're doing something wrong. And if you're doing it right, then you're teaching someone else. Even if answwering with wrong info, you're likely to be corrected here. But, noone is going to be belittled or shamed for passing wrong info. Now if they're wrong and want to aruge the point and not be corrected, well then they might get some backlash but normally not the case. People could have been given wrong info on FB which is very very common, then they come here to pass it on. So no need to trash someone for being given bad info. They don't know any better until they are corrected.
 

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it's bummer, some of used to be here every single day and checked in every so many hours.It's not that way anymore. used to everyone got an answer or at least an acknowledgment within an hour at the very least. And many times if whoever didnd't know, they knew who the goo roo was to send them to or to tag that would likley know. Now we have enough threads, I usually try to encourage them to go to a thread that has the answers or someone else who did it. But our links don't show up to good so I think they get missed. I send many people here with links from other social media platformes like Facebook. Someday ask a square question, I send them a link to here to a thread that should help them out and about 1/4 to 1'3 of them will sign up here and go back and mention that's a cool place, so others see that response and they'll come here to check it out. S0, even though I may not be here as often, I'd still sending people here as often as possible.
It's all good. Searching the threads is always first, and should be for newbs and seasoned members.
 

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It's all good. Searching the threads is always first, and should be for newbs and seasoned members.
It should be, and some probably do, but I have found our search engine within the forum is not all that great. I know for a fact what thread I'm looking for at times and I do the search thing and it don't come up. So I know it's not perfect. I mean, it does bring up related topics, so newbs should be getting help that way, but I know for a fact, we have a thread, like for example I was searching for Axle Code thread and it didn't come up. I knew Retro authored it, so that helped me finally get there. had I not known that, I probably wouldn't have found it.
 

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despite google search sucking now, if you know details or things in a thread well enough but cant get anything to show up, you can try using google and use the filters to limit it to "web" instead of the default search tab, you can use quotes to specify words that MUST be in it, and you can limit it to this domain
 

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As one of the newer members who frequent here, a lot of times I don’t have enough knowledge to contribute on certain topics, so I don’t say anything. Bad information is worse than no information. I will comment if it’s something along my journey, but I stay in my lane.

I’m extremely thankful that others take the time to comment or give direction. Part of the reason I started my own engine build thread was because of inspiration from others due to their threads.

I see lots of interaction here, which is good, and a reasonable amount of tolerance. I can’t say the same thing about the HAMB. That place was awful to try to contribute. Either you got shouted down by an old timer or outright ignored. That doesn’t happen here.

I hope this site continues to thrive, and no doubt it is kept buoyant by the popularity of the square. They’ve gone from being an everyday throw away truck to something that people value.

I for one appreciate all the responses and respect I see on the site.
You bring up many valid points, like no info is better than bad or wrong info. But even though you don't know something, many times you can at least comment and give your opinion. Many times guys like that too. Just so long as you don't get butthurt just becasue someone disagrees with your opinion. Or even make a suggestion. LIke even if you don't know. As in, I don't know how to fix that oil pressure guage in the dash, but it if were me, I'd go with a good quality aftermarket manual analog guage that I feel is going to be much more accureate than the electrical OE guage in the instrument cluster. If you commented something like that, I'd totally agree,

Yep, places like HAMB and Pirate4x4 is exactly what I wanted to make sure this place did not become. Where people are afraid to interact or comment due to belittling asshats. It comes at a cost though. Like we do end up with threads that end up down a rabbit hole, which so long as the answer or purpose of the thread has been addressed and resolved FIRST, then the thread continues on down the rabbit hole, does it really matter at that point? Is there any harm? I don't think so. Once someone comes in looking for an answer to a problem, they find the thread, they start reading it and get the answer they needed and the issue resolved, then what happens past that is optional reading if they choose too. They don't have to continue reading if they don't want to, and most people who are in a bind that don't have time for the horseplay, or even no horseplay, once they got the answer, they're out and they go fix it so it doesn't really matter what happens after the question has been answered, or the problem has been resolved. So we PREFER threads to stay on topic and we used to clean them up and take extra content to the off topic thread to keep the place tidy. It doesn't happen near as often anymore and it's OK so long as the issue was resolved FIRST before it went down a rabbit hole.

Things like your engine build thread not only helps others that find it, it can also help you also. You may have missed something that someone else catches, or a product or part might be suggested that you didn't know existed, or a tool that's new technology etc. Like, I see people doing an engine build and they show pics of their kit and talk about machine work and I don't see anything mentioned about the connecting rods being replaced, balanced or re conn'ed. Con rod, know as Connection rods are in fact, the #1 failure in a new engine build where 3 or 4000 miles later the engine is junk where it chucked a rod of spun a bearing. Well yeah, because the engine first failed at 200,000 miles with a spun bearing. They did get the crank turned replaced the pistons on the build, but they never though to have the rod's reconn'ed, meaning, hot tanked, magnafluxed to be checked for stress cracks or the big ends resized and that last rod that had spun, put the big end into an egg shape tha wasn't noticable by the naked eye, now you just built an engine a previously damaged rod and it failed 4000 miles later. The story I tell there, my ex son in law built an engine and was trying to stay within a budget. I told my daughter to tell him, make sure you have those rods reconn'ed at the machine shop, you're taking them in there anyway to have the pistons pressed on, so have them reconn'ed, maged, checked for twist, resized and get the rod and pistons balanced too. It might be $10 or so, but it's insurance for all that money you just spent. She told him about it and why. When all the stuff was ready to be picked up at the machine shop, he was working so he sent my daughter to go pick the stuff up and pay for it. She looked at the invoice and never seen Rod Recon and asked, were these rods re conn'ed. They said, NO he didn't tell us to do that but there was nothing obvious wrong. She said, Recon the rods. My dad told him to do it and as much money as we've spent on this build I want it done. But ma'am it'll cost more now since we'll have to press to piston's off an back on again. She said, I don't care do it. So it ended up costing $15 a rod now but guess what? 2 damaged rods and had to be replaced. 1 was twisted and 1 was cracked. This engine had blown a head gasket and got water in the cylinders is why it was being rebuilt. Water doesn't compress and something had to give. 2 rods is what gave and had they not reconn'ed the rods, they wouldn't have found it. Now if he knew what he was doing, he would have caught the twisted rod when he built it and noticed the pistom was slighted turned in the cylinder, IF HE THOUGHT TO look for that, but this was his first engine build. I doubt he'd have caught it. So it cost them an additional 200 for the rods reconn'ed and replaced the bad ones and balanced them all so they all matched even the 2 new ones, and they purchased used rods from the machine shop out of another junk engine they had and that's totallly fine. so long as they're matching. My daughter used to be smart. When daddy said, she did and husband at the time lied to her trying to not go over budget any more than they already did. Like I told them, to hell with your budget, some things you just do whether it puts you over budget or not. However, never did get that car running. He built that engine and wanted to change the cam timing blah blah blah, and him being out of state, I couldn't go see what he had done. He got overwhelmbed with it, and sold the whole car with the non running rebuilt engine to another airmen on base. He took the engine back out, went through it all again and re assembed the short block, new head gaskets put it together with just an RV cam and it's probably still running great to this day. Point being, your engine thread not only helps others, it might just help you too as others who know what they're doing are watching and mking suggestions along the way.
 

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As one of the newer members who frequent here, a lot of times I don’t have enough knowledge to contribute on certain topics, so I don’t say anything. Bad information is worse than no information. I will comment if it’s something along my journey, but I stay in my lane.

I’m extremely thankful that others take the time to comment or give direction. Part of the reason I started my own engine build thread was because of inspiration from others due to their threads.

I see lots of interaction here, which is good, and a reasonable amount of tolerance. I can’t say the same thing about the HAMB. That place was awful to try to contribute. Either you got shouted down by an old timer or outright ignored. That doesn’t happen here.

I hope this site continues to thrive, and no doubt it is kept buoyant by the popularity of the square. They’ve gone from being an everyday throw away truck to something that people value.

I for one appreciate all the responses and respect I see on the site.
You bring up many valid points, like no info is better than bad or wrong info. But even though you don't know something, many times you can at least comment and give your opinion. Many times guys like that too. Just so long as you don't get butthurt just becasue someone disagrees with your opinion. Or even make a suggestion. LIke even if you don't know. As in, I don't know how to fix that oil pressure guage in the dash, but it if were me, I'd go with a good quality aftermarket manual analog guage that I feel is going to be much more accureate than the electrical OE guage in the instrument cluster. If you commented something like that, I'd totally agree,

Yep, places like HAMB and Pirate4x4 is exactly what I wanted to make sure this place did not become. Where people are afraid to interact or comment due to belittling asshats. It comes at a cost though. Like we do end up with threads that end up down a rabbit hole, which so long as the answer or purpose of the thread has been addressed and resolved FIRST, then the thread continues on down the rabbit hole, does it really matter at that point? Is there any harm? I don't think so. Once someone comes in looking for an answer to a problem, they find the thread, they start reading it and get the answer they needed and the issue resolved, then what happens past that is optional reading if they choose too. They don't have to continue reading if they don't want to, and most people who are in a bind that don't have time for the horseplay, or even no horseplay, once they got the answer, they're out and they go fix it so it doesn't really matter what happens after the question has been answered, or the problem has been resolved. So we PREFER threads to stay on topic and we used to clean them up and take extra content to the off topic thread to keep the place tidy. It doesn't happen near as often anymore and it's OK so long as the issue was resolved FIRST before it went down a rabbit hole.

Things like your engine build thread not only helps others that find it, it can also help you also. You may have missed something that someone else catches, or a product or part might be suggested that you didn't know existed, or a tool that's new technology etc. Like, I see people doing an engine build and they show pics of their kit and talk about machine work and I don't see anything mentioned about the connecting rods being replaced, balanced or re conn'ed. Con rod, know as Connection rods are in fact, the #1 failure in a new engine build where 3 or 4000 miles later the engine is junk where it chucked a rod of spun a bearing. Well yeah, because the engine first failed at 200,000 miles with a spun bearing. They did get the crank turned replaced the pistons on the build, but they never though to have the rod's reconn'ed, meaning, hot tanked, magnafluxed to be checked for stress cracks or the big ends resized and that last rod that had spun, put the big end into an egg shape tha wasn't noticable by the naked eye, now you just built an engine a previously damaged rod and it failed 4000 miles later. The story I tell there, my ex son in law built an engine and was trying to stay within a budget. I told my daughter to tell him, make sure you have those rods reconn'ed at the machine shop, you're taking them in there anyway to have the pistons pressed on, so have them reconn'ed, maged, checked for twist, resized and get the rod and pistons balanced too. It might be $10 or so, but it's insurance for all that money you just spent. She told him about it and why. When all the stuff was ready to be picked up at the machine shop, he was working so he sent my daughter to go pick the stuff up and pay for it. She looked at the invoice and never seen Rod Recon and asked, were these rods re conn'ed. They said, NO he didn't tell us to do that but there was nothing obvious wrong. She said, Recon the rods. My dad told him to do it and as much money as we've spent on this build I want it done. But ma'am it'll cost more now since we'll have to press to piston's off an back on again. She said, I don't care do it. So it ended up costing $15 a rod now but guess what? 2 damaged rods and had to be replaced. 1 was twisted and 1 was cracked. This engine had blown a head gasket and got water in the cylinders is why it was being rebuilt. Water doesn't compress and something had to give. 2 rods is what gave and had they not reconn'ed the rods, they wouldn't have found it. Now if he knew what he was doing, he would have caught the twisted rod when he built it and noticed the pistom was slighted turned in the cylinder, IF HE THOUGHT TO look for that, but this was his first engine build. I doubt he'd have caught it. So it cost them an additional 200 for the rods reconn'ed and replaced the bad ones and balanced them all so they all matched even the 2 new ones, and they purchased used rods from the machine shop out of another junk engine they had and that's totallly fine. so long as they're matching. My daughter used to be smart. When daddy said, she did and husband at the time lied to her trying to not go over budget any more than they already did. Like I told them, to hell with your budget, some things you just do whether it puts you over budget or not. However, never did get that car running. He built that engine and wanted to change the cam timing blah blah blah, and him being out of state, I couldn't go see what he had done. He got overwhelmbed with it, and sold the whole car with the non running rebuilt engine to another airmen on base. He took the engine back out, went through it all again and re assembed the short block, new head gaskets put it together with just an RV cam and it's probably still running great to this day. Point being, your engine thread not only helps others, it might just help you too as others who know what they're doing are watching and mking suggestions along the way.

EDIT, Geez man, I typed all that, I gotta go back to bed. LOL
 

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You bring up many valid points, like no info is better than bad or wrong info. But even though you don't know something, many times you can at least comment and give your opinion. Many times guys like that too. Just so long as you don't get butthurt just becasue someone disagrees with your opinion. Or even make a suggestion. LIke even if you don't know. As in, I don't know how to fix that oil pressure guage in the dash, but it if were me, I'd go with a good quality aftermarket manual analog guage that I feel is going to be much more accureate than the electrical OE guage in the instrument cluster. If you commented something like that, I'd totally agree,

Yep, places like HAMB and Pirate4x4 is exactly what I wanted to make sure this place did not become. Where people are afraid to interact or comment due to belittling asshats. It comes at a cost though. Like we do end up with threads that end up down a rabbit hole, which so long as the answer or purpose of the thread has been addressed and resolved FIRST, then the thread continues on down the rabbit hole, does it really matter at that point? Is there any harm? I don't think so. Once someone comes in looking for an answer to a problem, they find the thread, they start reading it and get the answer they needed and the issue resolved, then what happens past that is optional reading if they choose too. They don't have to continue reading if they don't want to, and most people who are in a bind that don't have time for the horseplay, or even no horseplay, once they got the answer, they're out and they go fix it so it doesn't really matter what happens after the question has been answered, or the problem has been resolved. So we PREFER threads to stay on topic and we used to clean them up and take extra content to the off topic thread to keep the place tidy. It doesn't happen near as often anymore and it's OK so long as the issue was resolved FIRST before it went down a rabbit hole.

Things like your engine build thread not only helps others that find it, it can also help you also. You may have missed something that someone else catches, or a product or part might be suggested that you didn't know existed, or a tool that's new technology etc. Like, I see people doing an engine build and they show pics of their kit and talk about machine work and I don't see anything mentioned about the connecting rods being replaced, balanced or re conn'ed. Con rod, know as Connection rods are in fact, the #1 failure in a new engine build where 3 or 4000 miles later the engine is junk where it chucked a rod of spun a bearing. Well yeah, because the engine first failed at 200,000 miles with a spun bearing. They did get the crank turned replaced the pistons on the build, but they never though to have the rod's reconn'ed, meaning, hot tanked, magnafluxed to be checked for stress cracks or the big ends resized and that last rod that had spun, put the big end into an egg shape tha wasn't noticable by the naked eye, now you just built an engine a previously damaged rod and it failed 4000 miles later. The story I tell there, my ex son in law built an engine and was trying to stay within a budget. I told my daughter to tell him, make sure you have those rods reconn'ed at the machine shop, you're taking them in there anyway to have the pistons pressed on, so have them reconn'ed, maged, checked for twist, resized and get the rod and pistons balanced too. It might be $10 or so, but it's insurance for all that money you just spent. She told him about it and why. When all the stuff was ready to be picked up at the machine shop, he was working so he sent my daughter to go pick the stuff up and pay for it. She looked at the invoice and never seen Rod Recon and asked, were these rods re conn'ed. They said, NO he didn't tell us to do that but there was nothing obvious wrong. She said, Recon the rods. My dad told him to do it and as much money as we've spent on this build I want it done. But ma'am it'll cost more now since we'll have to press to piston's off an back on again. She said, I don't care do it. So it ended up costing $15 a rod now but guess what? 2 damaged rods and had to be replaced. 1 was twisted and 1 was cracked. This engine had blown a head gasket and got water in the cylinders is why it was being rebuilt. Water doesn't compress and something had to give. 2 rods is what gave and had they not reconn'ed the rods, they wouldn't have found it. Now if he knew what he was doing, he would have caught the twisted rod when he built it and noticed the pistom was slighted turned in the cylinder, IF HE THOUGHT TO look for that, but this was his first engine build. I doubt he'd have caught it. So it cost them an additional 200 for the rods reconn'ed and replaced the bad ones and balanced them all so they all matched even the 2 new ones, and they purchased used rods from the machine shop out of another junk engine they had and that's totallly fine. so long as they're matching. My daughter used to be smart. When daddy said, she did and husband at the time lied to her trying to not go over budget any more than they already did. Like I told them, to hell with your budget, some things you just do whether it puts you over budget or not. However, never did get that car running. He built that engine and wanted to change the cam timing blah blah blah, and him being out of state, I couldn't go see what he had done. He got overwhelmbed with it, and sold the whole car with the non running rebuilt engine to another airmen on base. He took the engine back out, went through it all again and re assembed the short block, new head gaskets put it together with just an RV cam and it's probably still running great to this day. Point being, your engine thread not only helps others, it might just help you too as others who know what they're doing are watching and mking suggestions along the way.

EDIT, Geez man, I typed all that, I gotta go back to bed. LOL
Great response! Lots of point of view that I hadn’t really considered.
 

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You bring up many valid points, like no info is better than bad or wrong info. But even though you don't know something, many times you can at least comment and give your opinion. Many times guys like that too. Just so long as you don't get butthurt just becasue someone disagrees with your opinion. Or even make a suggestion. LIke even if you don't know. As in, I don't know how to fix that oil pressure guage in the dash, but it if were me, I'd go with a good quality aftermarket manual analog guage that I feel is going to be much more accureate than the electrical OE guage in the instrument cluster. If you commented something like that, I'd totally agree,

Yep, places like HAMB and Pirate4x4 is exactly what I wanted to make sure this place did not become. Where people are afraid to interact or comment due to belittling asshats. It comes at a cost though. Like we do end up with threads that end up down a rabbit hole, which so long as the answer or purpose of the thread has been addressed and resolved FIRST, then the thread continues on down the rabbit hole, does it really matter at that point? Is there any harm? I don't think so. Once someone comes in looking for an answer to a problem, they find the thread, they start reading it and get the answer they needed and the issue resolved, then what happens past that is optional reading if they choose too. They don't have to continue reading if they don't want to, and most people who are in a bind that don't have time for the horseplay, or even no horseplay, once they got the answer, they're out and they go fix it so it doesn't really matter what happens after the question has been answered, or the problem has been resolved. So we PREFER threads to stay on topic and we used to clean them up and take extra content to the off topic thread to keep the place tidy. It doesn't happen near as often anymore and it's OK so long as the issue was resolved FIRST before it went down a rabbit hole.

Things like your engine build thread not only helps others that find it, it can also help you also. You may have missed something that someone else catches, or a product or part might be suggested that you didn't know existed, or a tool that's new technology etc. Like, I see people doing an engine build and they show pics of their kit and talk about machine work and I don't see anything mentioned about the connecting rods being replaced, balanced or re conn'ed. Con rod, know as Connection rods are in fact, the #1 failure in a new engine build where 3 or 4000 miles later the engine is junk where it chucked a rod of spun a bearing. Well yeah, because the engine first failed at 200,000 miles with a spun bearing. They did get the crank turned replaced the pistons on the build, but they never though to have the rod's reconn'ed, meaning, hot tanked, magnafluxed to be checked for stress cracks or the big ends resized and that last rod that had spun, put the big end into an egg shape tha wasn't noticable by the naked eye, now you just built an engine a previously damaged rod and it failed 4000 miles later. The story I tell there, my ex son in law built an engine and was trying to stay within a budget. I told my daughter to tell him, make sure you have those rods reconn'ed at the machine shop, you're taking them in there anyway to have the pistons pressed on, so have them reconn'ed, maged, checked for twist, resized and get the rod and pistons balanced too. It might be $10 or so, but it's insurance for all that money you just spent. She told him about it and why. When all the stuff was ready to be picked up at the machine shop, he was working so he sent my daughter to go pick the stuff up and pay for it. She looked at the invoice and never seen Rod Recon and asked, were these rods re conn'ed. They said, NO he didn't tell us to do that but there was nothing obvious wrong. She said, Recon the rods. My dad told him to do it and as much money as we've spent on this build I want it done. But ma'am it'll cost more now since we'll have to press to piston's off an back on again. She said, I don't care do it. So it ended up costing $15 a rod now but guess what? 2 damaged rods and had to be replaced. 1 was twisted and 1 was cracked. This engine had blown a head gasket and got water in the cylinders is why it was being rebuilt. Water doesn't compress and something had to give. 2 rods is what gave and had they not reconn'ed the rods, they wouldn't have found it. Now if he knew what he was doing, he would have caught the twisted rod when he built it and noticed the pistom was slighted turned in the cylinder, IF HE THOUGHT TO look for that, but this was his first engine build. I doubt he'd have caught it. So it cost them an additional 200 for the rods reconn'ed and replaced the bad ones and balanced them all so they all matched even the 2 new ones, and they purchased used rods from the machine shop out of another junk engine they had and that's totallly fine. so long as they're matching. My daughter used to be smart. When daddy said, she did and husband at the time lied to her trying to not go over budget any more than they already did. Like I told them, to hell with your budget, some things you just do whether it puts you over budget or not. However, never did get that car running. He built that engine and wanted to change the cam timing blah blah blah, and him being out of state, I couldn't go see what he had done. He got overwhelmbed with it, and sold the whole car with the non running rebuilt engine to another airmen on base. He took the engine back out, went through it all again and re assembed the short block, new head gaskets put it together with just an RV cam and it's probably still running great to this day. Point being, your engine thread not only helps others, it might just help you too as others who know what they're doing are watching and mking suggestions along the way.

EDIT, Geez man, I typed all that, I gotta go back to bed. LOL

These are the novels that we have come to know and love, lol.
 

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You bring up many valid points, like no info is better than bad or wrong info. But even though you don't know something, many times you can at least comment and give your opinion. Many times guys like that too. Just so long as you don't get butthurt just becasue someone disagrees with your opinion. Or even make a suggestion. LIke even if you don't know. As in, I don't know how to fix that oil pressure guage in the dash, but it if were me, I'd go with a good quality aftermarket manual analog guage that I feel is going to be much more accureate than the electrical OE guage in the instrument cluster. If you commented something like that, I'd totally agree,

Yep, places like HAMB and Pirate4x4 is exactly what I wanted to make sure this place did not become. Where people are afraid to interact or comment due to belittling asshats. It comes at a cost though. Like we do end up with threads that end up down a rabbit hole, which so long as the answer or purpose of the thread has been addressed and resolved FIRST, then the thread continues on down the rabbit hole, does it really matter at that point? Is there any harm? I don't think so. Once someone comes in looking for an answer to a problem, they find the thread, they start reading it and get the answer they needed and the issue resolved, then what happens past that is optional reading if they choose too. They don't have to continue reading if they don't want to, and most people who are in a bind that don't have time for the horseplay, or even no horseplay, once they got the answer, they're out and they go fix it so it doesn't really matter what happens after the question has been answered, or the problem has been resolved. So we PREFER threads to stay on topic and we used to clean them up and take extra content to the off topic thread to keep the place tidy. It doesn't happen near as often anymore and it's OK so long as the issue was resolved FIRST before it went down a rabbit hole.

Things like your engine build thread not only helps others that find it, it can also help you also. You may have missed something that someone else catches, or a product or part might be suggested that you didn't know existed, or a tool that's new technology etc.


Like, I see people doing an engine build and they show pics of their kit and talk about machine work and I don't see anything mentioned about the connecting rods being replaced, balanced or re conn'ed. Con rod, know as Connection rods are in fact, the #1 failure in a new engine build where 3 or 4000 miles later the engine is junk where it chucked a rod of spun a bearing. Well yeah, because the engine first failed at 200,000 miles with a spun bearing. They did get the crank turned replaced the pistons on the build, but they never though to have the rod's reconn'ed, meaning, hot tanked, magnafluxed to be checked for stress cracks or the big ends resized and that last rod that had spun, put the big end into an egg shape tha wasn't noticable by the naked eye, now you just built an engine a previously damaged rod and it failed 4000 miles later. The story I tell there, my ex son in law built an engine and was trying to stay within a budget.


I told my daughter to tell him, make sure you have those rods reconn'ed at the machine shop, you're taking them in there anyway to have the pistons pressed on, so have them reconn'ed, maged, checked for twist, resized and get the rod and pistons balanced too. It might be $10 or so, but it's insurance for all that money you just spent. She told him about it and why. When all the stuff was ready to be picked up at the machine shop, he was working so he sent my daughter to go pick the stuff up and pay for it. She looked at the invoice and never seen Rod Recon and asked, were these rods re conn'ed. They said, NO he didn't tell us to do that but there was nothing obvious wrong. She said, Recon the rods. My dad told him to do it and as much money as we've spent on this build I want it done. But ma'am it'll cost more now since we'll have to press to piston's off an back on again. She said, I don't care do it. So it ended up costing $15 a rod now but guess what? 2 damaged rods and had to be replaced. 1 was twisted and 1 was cracked. This engine had blown a head gasket and got water in the cylinders is why it was being rebuilt. Water doesn't compress and something had to give. 2 rods is what gave and had they not reconn'ed the rods, they wouldn't have found it. Now if he knew what he was doing, he would have caught the twisted rod when he built it and noticed the pistom was slighted turned in the cylinder, IF HE THOUGHT TO look for that, but this was his first engine build. I doubt he'd have caught it. So it cost them an additional 200 for the rods reconn'ed and replaced the bad ones and balanced them all so they all matched even the 2 new ones, and they purchased used rods from the machine shop out of another junk engine they had and that's totallly fine. so long as they're matching. My daughter used to be smart. When daddy said, she did and husband at the time lied to her trying to not go over budget any more than they already did. Like I told them, to hell with your budget, some things you just do whether it puts you over budget or not. However, never did get that car running. He built that engine and wanted to change the cam timing blah blah blah, and him being out of state, I couldn't go see what he had done. He got overwhelmbed with it, and sold the whole car with the non running rebuilt engine to another airmen on base. He took the engine back out, went through it all again and re assembed the short block, new head gaskets put it together with just an RV cam and it's probably still running great to this day. Point being, your engine thread not only helps others, it might just help you too as others who know what they're doing are watching and mking suggestions along the way.

EDIT, Geez man, I typed all that, I gotta go back to bed. LOL
I wish this forum type had the capability of designating a "most helpful" or "answer" by the person whos thrad it is. if they did that, then rabbit holes wouldnt hide solutions
 

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I wish this forum type had the capability of designating a "most helpful" or "answer" by the person whos thrad it is. if they did that, then rabbit holes wouldnt hide solutions
Search by member name? I guess I am either lucky or weird, as I have had good success searching on this forum site, and others as well. Might take a few iterations to glean everything, but it's doable
 

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