Castor shims

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You need to measure the current caster of the axle.
 

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Make sure the steering arm is correct for a 4" lift. My truck had one for a lifted truck. I have a one inch lift and it handled poorly and darted around until I installed factory arm.
It has the correct arm for the lift installed, drag link angle is flat
 

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Positive would-be lower ball joint farther forward than the top so thick end at the front if axle on top, and at the rear if spring on top.

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so with this picture I would be a negative castor with the shim in the front with the thick end forward? correct??
 

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so with this picture I would be a negative castor with the shim in the front with the thick end forward? correct??
Depending on what is already built into the axle but typicly yes with the axle and shim under the spring thick forward is negative thick to the rear is posative.


This is posative
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Ignore that this image is for a Jeep it was the best image of this I could find.

The downside as you add positive castor or raise the vehicle the drive shaft angle changes (the pinion lowers). So, this diff with a decent lift to correct the drive shaft angle would need to have positive castor removed (more negative added) or the transfer case lowered. Finding the balance between the 2 is where it can be a pain. This can also get costly as correcting for a large lift could end up with having to have the ends cut off and re welded at a corrected angle that works better with the drive shaft/pinion angle.
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Right.

I think I need to reiterate... shims on the front with lift springs are typically to help reduce pinion angle. NOT improve caster angle. Helping one will hurt the other, so the lesser of two evils will need to be selected.
Same with the 86. Had shims under the 4” springs for pinion angle that reduced caster. They were supposed to be I piece but came out like peanut brittle smacked with a hammer….lol. So slapped the zero rates in with no shims, made the pinion worse caster mo betta and it drives the same.
Straight and true but don’t be dozing off it ain’t got lane sense sensors!
I think the key to good handling and not worrying about the little twitches is keep running the old steering box with excessive play in it. It covers for all these “little adjustments” that need to be made! Hahahaha
 

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More positive caster makes it go straighter down the road. Have you checked the toe-in? 1/8 inch is good?

0* toe or toe out will make a vehicle dart around. It's actually a racer trick to get quicker turn in.

Still haven't heard what your toe is set at, @idahovette and @Ricko1966 make good points here toe can really impact how a vehicle handles.

Toe is probably the easiest and quickest alignment spec to measure and adjust at home, getting the steering wheel to center is probably the second easiest.
 

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Still haven't heard what your toe is set at, @idahovette and @Ricko1966 make good points here toe can really impact how a vehicle handles.

Toe is probably the easiest and quickest alignment spec to measure and adjust at home, getting the steering wheel to center is probably the second easiest.

Yeah, OP also has a thread asking about a track bar to help with steering wander. In that thread too, it was mentioned that it could be as simple as an improper toe setting.
 

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Still haven't heard what your toe is set at, @idahovette and @Ricko1966 make good points here toe can really impact how a vehicle handles.

Toe is probably the easiest and quickest alignment spec to measure and adjust at home, getting the steering wheel to center is probably the second easiest.
I haven't had a chance to measure it! My wife is not good on a tape measure and my buddy has been busy so I went ahead and got it scheduled for the shop on Wed.
 

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I haven't had a chance to measure it! My wife is not good on a tape measure and my buddy has been busy so I went ahead and got it scheduled for the shop on Wed.
Alright Sir…. I’ll let it slide this time
 

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Alright Sir…. I’ll let it slide this time
this whole issue is probably on me. I changed the front axle out to get matching gear ratios for the truck. I probably didn't pay attention to the location of the shims when I tore it apart!! This getting old **** ain't for sissy"s!!!
 

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this whole issue is probably on me. I changed the front axle out to get matching gear ratios for the truck. I probably didn't pay attention to the location of the shims when I tore it apart!! This getting old **** ain't for sissy"s!!!
That was my point. I made everything a little worse theoretically for steering. Bout the same….
 

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On the IH Scouts, most of the housing c’s are welded with zero caster built in. A “cut and turn” is common on those vehicles.
 

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