Spindle nuts, what am i doing wrong?

[Bronze Knight]

Hey everyone I’ve been doing some mantince on the k30 and ran into an issue getting it put back together.

I’ve replaced kingpin upper bushing/spring/seal and Lower race/bearing/seal as well as the needle bearing inside the spindle and the gaskets and the wheel bearings/races (inner and outer) on the drivers side. Now when I took it apart the nuts that hold the spindle onto the kingpin all had some thread showing from the studs but now that I’ve got it all back together the top bolts have thread showing from the nut. In the pictures I’ve already torqued them down to 65 ft lbs (per the 1985 manual page 3C-31) and they are still like that. I’ve also included a picture of the passenger side which shows how it was before i took apart.

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Above: My (wrong? Drivers side) Below: the untouched Passenger side.

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[bucket]

Is it possible that those studs got pushed back into the knuckle when you removed the spindle?

 

[Bronze Knight]

I guess it’s possible but I doubt it. I did clean the kingpin up some but those studs/bolts are in there good no movement on them at all, and I know I didn’t drop it.

 

[legopnuematic]

I’d give it a whack or two with a dead blow about where the arrow is, loosen the nuts up first. Me thinks the spindle or caliper bracket is cocked as the nuts appear to gradually get higher.

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I have a habit of hitting any mating surfaces, even on new parts with a file or stone to knock any high spots or dingleberries off. This knuckle from my ram is a particularly good example of crazy high spots of someone (not me) with very poor aim lol.

 

[nvrenuf]

Make sure you have the parts assembled in the correct order. Iirc, if they are in the wrong order the parts won’t lay flat.

 

[Bronze Knight]

Make sure you have the parts assembled in the correct order. Iirc, if they are in the wrong order the parts won’t lay flat.

This was my first thought and was why I took apart the passenger side. Currently and I believe this to be correct, from the outside in it is….

Sheet metal cup, break dust shield, break caliper bracket, spindle, angled spacer plate (not sure what this is called i assume its there to give some camber to the wheels to offset the engine weight).

I’d give it a whack or two with a dead blow about where the arrow is, loosen the nuts up first. Me thinks the spindle or caliper bracket is cocked as the nuts appear to gradually get higher.

I did do this

I have a habit of hitting any mating surfaces, even on new parts with a file or stone to knock any high spots or dingleberries off. This knuckle from my ram is a particularly good example of crazy high spots of someone (not me) with very poor aim lol.

I guess that’s the next step, there was a little bit of surface rust on the parts but not much but I don’t think that will get me another whole turn or two on that nut.

 

[nvrenuf]

This was my first thought and was why I took apart the passenger side. Currently and I believe this to be correct, from the outside in it is….

Sheet metal cup, break dust shield, break caliper bracket, spindle, angled spacer plate (not sure what this is called i assume its there to give some camber to the wheels to offset the engine weight).

That the correct order and, you’re right, that’s a camber shim. The shim must be pretty thick to make that much difference in the amount of threads sticking out of the nut.

For the suggestion that the studs may have backed out some, you might be able to see them from the u-joint side of the knuckle. Just look for any gap under the head. I would think if they backed out the stub axle dust shield would hit them.

 

[idahovette]

How thick was the shim at the thickest place??