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Basically you should see 58 psi with atmospheric pressure on the vacuum line (key on engine off, unplugged vacuum line while running, or WOT operation should all get you about the same "full" pressure), then with the vacuum line connected, your fuel pressure drops 1:1 with engine vacuum, which is about 2"-Hg per PSI. So if you have 14" of vacuum, you should see a ~7 psi drop in fuel pressure at idle. If you have a vacuum pump, full vacuum should get you down close to 43 psi, although I wouldn't bother trying to go that low. Make sure you are getting it trending down until you get to about 50 psi and you should be good to prove the regulator is working.
I have put my new sender in, fuel pressure idling is 53psi, fuel pressure idling/running with the vacuum line off is 58psi.
 

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I have put my new sender in, fuel pressure idling is 53psi, fuel pressure idling/running with the vacuum line off is 58psi.
Those are the correct values to be seeing.
 

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I hoped I solved my running rich problem. Switched the two inlet for a three inlet sending unit. Can the charcoal canister be mounted horizontal?
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I hoped I solved my running rich problem. Switched the two inlet for a three inlet sending unit. Can the charcoal canister be mounted horizontal?
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No, charcoal canister needs to be upright, unless you switch to one of the newer canisters from the LS vehicles. Those canisters are designed to be mounted horizontal right near the tank and then vent using a computer controlled signal to a point right above the tank fill point and purge to a computer controlled valve on the intake manifold. They use quick disconnects and formed hard line to get there, so it can be a problem to retrofit in swaps.
 

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So far the numbers are staying the same. Will have to remove a few things and mount the charcoal canister on the passener side under the air box.
 

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I hoped I solved my running rich problem. Switched the two inlet for a three inlet sending unit. Can the charcoal canister be mounted horizontal?

Just reading last posts... is your:
Tune stock
Intake tube stock
Mass airflow sensor stock
 

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Humm.. I had a slightly larger aftermarket intake tube and factory mass airflow and that made mybswap run rich. I wound up putting a wideband on it and tuning the airflow sensor table.
 

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Humm.. I had a slightly larger aftermarket intake tube and factory mass airflow and that made mybswap run rich. I wound up putting a wideband on it and tuning the airflow sensor table.
Any time you change the intake tubing, you change the mass airflow readings and need to retune them. As long as you stick to the stock tubing it will be fine.
 

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Humm.. I had a slightly larger aftermarket intake tube and factory mass airflow and that made mybswap run rich. I wound up putting a wideband on it and tuning the airflow sensor table.

This is my setup.

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Welp, I'd say that counts as stock...
FWIW, it isn't uncommon for even stock setups to be 10% off, although my experience is that it usually is trending lean and forcing more fuel to be added. Dirty MAF allows more air that isn't detected, dirty injectors allow less fuel than what the computer thinks, and ethanol fuel supplies less BTU than the early computers planned for (assuming it isn't flex fuel, but even the later computers seemed to default to accommodate 10% ethanol where my '01 stock setup was based on real gas).

All that said, 58/53 seems close enough, 100 psi is absolutely going to make it rich. I think you got rid of your 100 psi readings with the tank venting, correct? If you have pressure in the 50's, run it a while and you should be able to see if you are running right or not. If you don't have a way to check the computer, get an OBD2 bluetooth reader and something like the Torque Pro app and look at your fuel trims, long term and short term. If they aren't pegged out one way or the other (after resetting the computer with a battery disconnect) then you should be good enough. A good in-person tune will always help, but if you just want stock, reliable operation, you will be in as good of shape as any 10 year old Chevy truck out there.
 

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Welp, I'd say that counts as stock...
FWIW, it isn't uncommon for even stock setups to be 10% off, although my experience is that it usually is trending lean and forcing more fuel to be added. Dirty MAF allows more air that isn't detected, dirty injectors allow less fuel than what the computer thinks, and ethanol fuel supplies less BTU than the early computers planned for (assuming it isn't flex fuel, but even the later computers seemed to default to accommodate 10% ethanol where my '01 stock setup was based on real gas).

All that said, 58/53 seems close enough, 100 psi is absolutely going to make it rich. I think you got rid of your 100 psi readings with the tank venting, correct? If you have pressure in the 50's, run it a while and you should be able to see if you are running right or not. If you don't have a way to check the computer, get an OBD2 bluetooth reader and something like the Torque Pro app and look at your fuel trims, long term and short term. If they aren't pegged out one way or the other (after resetting the computer with a battery disconnect) then you should be good enough. A good in-person tune will always help, but if you just want stock, reliable operation, you will be in as good of shape as any 10 year old Chevy truck out there.
Vent is fixed and hooked back up to a charcoal canister. Not flex fuel. Reset the computer yesterday. I carry an OBD2 scanner with the the truck. Checked everything and was in normal ranges. Will drive it tomorrow and see what happens. I programmed the LS tune myself.
 

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Drove for about an hour, no codes, runs good, stopped and checked the fuel trims and were okay, what a stupid oversight on my part.
 

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Good deal.
I had a coworker who did an EFI conversion on his mustang. Ran great, for about 30 minutes at a time, then started running lean and eventually died. A few hours later it would be fine, but do it all over again. It was a head scratcher for weeks, I think he replaced the fuel pump a couple of times, diagnosed wiring connections, ran the thing on jackstands until it got hot enough to see if something was changing when warm, rerouted his fuel lines to keep them away from the exhaust, and a bunch of other stuff. Turns out his tank vent wasn't right and it was pulling vacuum as fuel was removed, causing it to lean out from low fuel pressure. Since then I always keep an eye out for things like that.
 

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my recent "used" replacement LS it's acting a bit funny and have been thinking about how to troubleshoot it.

I ordered a fitting to hook up to the fuel rail. Then I plan to hook up an oil sender to it (weld if needed to so it don't leak), then put a switch to the oil pressure gauge to switch between the 2. I'd like to monitor mine when it's acting funny. I might have a filter/regulator or pump going bad.

Thought I'd share cuz it might help troubleshooting ur issue. If you beat me to it, make sure it doesn't leak at the sender obviously.
 

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