Borgeson Steering Shaft: Anyone ever use it?

[da_raabi]

So I discovered that I need a new rag joint and a new steering shaft. I did some research and found this:

Borgeson Steering Shaft 000934

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Anybody ever use one of these before? $170 is a tad steep but no-one else seems to make them. They also make a universal joint model, but its a lot more expensive, and it would appear that it does not collapse:

Borgeson Extreme Duty Steering Shaft 000935

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Any thoughts on these?

 

[Skweegle89]

There is a thread on here that shows how to swap in a shaft from an older Jeep Cherokee. Super cheap and simple, and just as good.


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[marks86]

I have one it works pretty good, but what Ive realized is for the price its not worth it, like skeegle89 said a older jeep Cherokee shaft is like a direct bolt it, and the dodge ram I got the cummins out of is almost the same thing as well, great part but not worth the 250bucks when there are so many other cheaper options

 

[da_raabi]

Even the $170 version that still uses the rag joint? I just don't know comfortable I am trying to modify the jeep shaft to work. I've read through the thread on it and it seems kind-of sketchy. I want to make sure the truck is safe enough to bring my soon-to-be-here baby home in.

 

[marks86]

Even the $170 version that still uses the rag joint? I just don't know comfortable I am trying to modify the jeep shaft to work. I've read through the thread on it and it seems kind-of sketchy. I want to make sure the truck is safe enough to bring my soon-to-be-here baby home in.

just a heads up you still have to modify these shafts aka with a saw

 

[da_raabi]

just a heads up you still have to modify these shafts aka with a saw

You mean the borgeson shafts? Why? What needs to be modified?

 

[marks86]

You mean the borgeson shafts? Why? What needs to be modified?

it needs to be cut to length

 

[da_raabi]

Well thats bogus. Why sell it as a replacement part then? This steering shaft thing is a pretty giant hole in the parts availability world it seems. Well off to the drawing board again. I guess if I have to modify parts regardless I might as well try the jeep thing.

 

[Skweegle89]

You really don't have to modify much. Just break or melt the plastic stops so the shaft can slide, bolt it on and go get an alignment. I haven't done it yet. I was in the same situation and needed it safe so I just replaced the rag joint for now, but going to do it as soon as I can find a shaft.


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[skysurfer]

I have the 935 model and it does what it's supposed to do, but I don't know if it's any better than the Jeep shaft. The reason I went with the Borgeson is because I didn't like the idea of putting a used steering part of unknown quality in my truck. It's used for commercial purposes so I couldn't take a chance with swerving off a mountain trail and killing a dozen people just because I didn't want to spend a couple-hundred bucks.

 

[da_raabi]

I have the 935 model and it does what it's supposed to do, but I don't know if it's any better than the Jeep shaft. The reason I went with the Borgeson is because I didn't like the idea of putting a used steering part of unknown quality in my truck. It's used for commercial purposes so I couldn't take a chance with swerving off a mountain trail and killing a dozen people just because I didn't want to spend a couple-hundred bucks.

See this is how I'm feeling about it, but if you have to cut it anyway then what difference does it make? Also - does the 935 model collapse at all? As in would it collapse in an accident the same as the OE one?

 

[marks86]

See this is how I'm feeling about it, but if you have to cut it anyway then what difference does it make? Also - does the 935 model collapse at all? As in would it collapse in an accident the same as the OE one?

yes it does

 

[MadOgre]

You really don't have to modify much. Just break or melt the plastic stops so the shaft can slide, bolt it on and go get an alignment. I haven't done it yet. I was in the same situation and needed it safe so I just replaced the rag joint for now, but going to do it as soon as I can find a shaft.


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If you do that you will have play in the shaft that will cause wandering steering. I just tried it cause it didn't seem like there was very much play. But it wandered all over so I tapped some set screws where the plastic pins were to stop the play.

 

[bucket]

The Jeep shaft install is just so simple though, there's really no modifications needed besides the slight "notch" on the factory steering column. And it's a factory engineered part, not aftermarket.

If you do that you will have play in the shaft that will cause wandering steering. I just tried it cause it didn't seem like there was very much play. But it wandered all over so I tapped some set screws where the plastic pins were to stop the play.

If you are careful with the heating process, it should be possible to collapse the shaft for install, without melting the plastic stuff out. Also, I think a Wrangler shaft shaft is longer, so if you melt the plastic out there's a lot more contact area to keep things stable when it's installed.

 

[MadOgre]

Yes it wasn't to bad until I cleaned all the remnants of plastic out. It still didn't seem like there was any play but when I drove it the steering would just take off a little here and there