Cab Mount help

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Hey guys, I just crawled under my truck and seen I’m missing the bolt for the cab mount under the driver side floor pan and since I’m putting a new floor in anyways, now would probably be the time to change all 6 mounts. Besides the typical rusted bolts twisting off where you have to cut the floor to get to them is it a fairly straight forward process? Will all my body panels, doors be completely misaligned with the new mounts? Also is energy suspension good mounts to buy? I know LMC rubber ones are maybe better but to get them here in Canada will be over $500 which I think is a bit much for that. Anyways I’m just hoping that with the new mounts I won’t have a bunch of realigning to do. Thoughts or advice would be great, thanks
 

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Energy suspension is fine, I've had no problems with them.

Do one side at a time and you can keep your alignment pretty close, will probably need to adjust but it's not too bad.

As long as the body wasn't realigned with really bad body mounts, it shouldn't need touched. Might need to though, maybe just loosen fender bolts, but now would be the time with the body mounts loose to be able to do it though.
 

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I used the Energy Suspension poly bushings. They changed cab height a little, but really just brought it back into alignment. They give you some thin goo to lubricate them, but even with that they were noisy (squeaky) for the first few months while they settled in. I would lubricate the contact areas with silicon grease.

Unexpected bonus - my TH350 shifter lined up better with the neutral switch. My truck cab interior got much quieter because the cab floor was no longer sitting on top of the transfer case.
 

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Anyways I’m just hoping that with the new mounts I won’t have a bunch of realigning to do. Thoughts or advice would be great, thanks
Hey there - the first thing you need to do is put new mounts in. You cannot line up any of the hanging panels ( doors, fenders, hood etc. until the cab is correctly mounted. You will need to replace the mounts for the radiator support also, and then line everything up from there. There are a number of threads about this process on the forum that should help you in more detail.
Replacing the floor is a critical job also, that takes you back a step before cab mounts. Obviously the floor is integral to the cab, therefore you will want to make sure that the cab firewall, sills and rear wall are all correctly oriented to the floor, and then that the cab is properly mounted to the frame. If you don't do this, the door openings will be incorrect and you will never gap the panels properly.
Depending on what all you are actually replacing ( complete floor, floor sections, floor support rails, inner / outer sills etc. - you should construct a jig to support the cab before cutting it apart. There may be someone that has a thread on here about floor replacement, others will know.
As far as cab mount material / brands - rubber ( LMC etc. ) is OEM, and should last a similar lifetime in the truck ( another 50 years ). They will also provide the highest level of road noise insulation, due to the flexibility.
Energy Suspension ( and others ) are either cast or injected plastic ( polyurethane ) - stiffer than rubber so noisier. They may also contribute to metal fatigue over time, as more road vibration is transferred into the metal. I have also personally had poly suspension bushings collapse ( turn to mush ) after a "short" ( 5 - 10 years ) period from a combination of oil contact and harsh weather.
You could make your own from turned Nylon pucks ( also stiff, but potentially less likely to degrade over time ), or even solid steel or aluminum.
By bolting the sheet metal directly to the frame you are effectively creating a "unibody" in theory. I have not seen anyone ( outside of racing builds ) do this for the street, and test over a long period of time, however am looking at trying this for a track car project in the future.
Hope some of this helps - post pics in a build thread ...
 

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Me and my SIL just cab swapped his 85 K10. I was fortunate enough to have bought new cab mount bushings from the Holley/Brothers clearance a year or so back. It worked out great as getting things lined up was not an issue at all having new bushings that were not like the 40 year old "plum whooped" rubbers that came out. I'll use original and used parts when I can but sometimes you have to pony up and put new jewelry on these ole girls.

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Me and my SIL just cab swapped his 85 K10. I was fortunate enough to have bought new cab mount bushings from the Holley/Brothers clearance a year or so back. It worked out great as getting things lined up was not an issue at all having new bushings that were not like the 40 year old "plum whooped" rubbers that came out. I'll use original and used parts when I can but sometimes you have to pony up and put new jewelry on these ole girls.

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