Swapping out OEM distributor with HEI distributor

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This is going no where Cali Square bodies were carbureated and knock sensor we could go round and round about this. I still don't agree with you,I think even a crude knock sensor can be used as a tuning tool,just like and adjustable vacuum advance but better and lots of guys are pulling timing and using adjustable vacuum advance to kill detonation they only have occasionally in certain conditions,a crude knock sensor woukd help right there,just for that minute instaed of pulling timing all the time. As I said before,I don't want to argue about. You have your opinion I have mine. I'm done.
 

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Jealous of you all in Texas, no rust on that baby, looks nice !!
 

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I had a similar situation with my 1986 C10. It was originally a California truck with a 305 that had ESC and CCC (computer controlled carburetor). The previous owner dropped in a crate 350 and kept the original distributor, carburetor and 700R4 transmission. It ran okay, but nothing like my 1976 C10 with a 350 and turbo 350 transmission. I started having some carb issues so I swapped out the Rochester CCC with a non CCC quadrajet. The throttle response and performance increase was immediate but it still wasn't exactly where I wanted it. Then I swapped out the ESC distributor for an HEI unit with vacuum advance. I set my base timing at 10⁰ advance. I get 17⁰ of vacuum advance from a manifold vacuum source for a total of 27⁰ advance at idle. I get a total of 34⁰ mechanical advance at 3000 rpm. The difference is like night and day. Even with the 3.08 gear in back, it really pulls hard on acceleration. I can run regular gas and I have no pinging or detonation issues at all. My '76 had 3.73 gears in the back so it was much quicker off the line, but I do a lot of highway cruising with my '86 so the 3.08 gears are just fine. The 700R4 has a lower 1st and 2nd gear ratio than the turbo 350 so that helps as well.
 

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My truck the ESC went down . I put in a regular HEI I messed with it springs,weights,vacuum can initial. I never got it to run as a total package as well as it did with ESC. Same with @SirRobyn0 he chronicles all the changes he made over the coarse of a year,finally when it was all said and done,it was back as an ESC truck. He documented it all recorded gas milage etc. I can tell you mine runs better with esc. But I didn't document anything. Working ESC is best in my truck. I suspect yours never worked right. So it's real similiar to the I took off a messed up Qjet and put on an Edelbrock and it runs great stories. But you never hear anybody say I compared a Fresh Quadrajet to an Edelbrock.
I haven't the time to read though the entire thread or to dig up my old thread and link it, but ya for my truck the ESC needs to be there for it run with any kind of power and get the best gas mileage it can.
 

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I just upgraded my stock fan to a dual 12-in electric fan. Wanted to know how many cfms do I need to cool my 350 small block engine that I have?
The setup that I upgraded to, each fan is 1700 CFM. I have a total of 3400 cfm
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Is that enough to cool my engine
 

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After a lot of reading about ESD's, I thought it'd be interesting to ask Perplexity if I could add ESD to my 4.1/250 six cylinder Jimmy. This is the answer I got:


CAN I ADD ELECTRONIC SPARK DISTRIBUTION [ESD] TO MY 4.1 (250) IN-LINE SIX CYLINDER ENGINE:

The 4.1 GMC straight-six engine is a classic, carbureted engine. Many owners upgrade these engines with modern electronic systems-such as electronic fuel injection (EFI) or electronic ignition systems-to improve reliability, performance, and drivability.

There are documented projects where enthusiasts have successfully added electronic fuel injection and even turbocharging to similar GM inline-six engines, using aftermarket kits like Holley’s Sniper EFI, which is designed to be adaptable to older engines.

These systems often include electronic ignition control as part of the package.


Yes, you can convert a classic GMC 4.1 six-cylinder from points-based ignition to an electronic ignition system. There are several aftermarket kits available for this purpose, which improve spark reliability and reduce maintenance.


Yes, you can add EFI to your 4.1 engine. Aftermarket EFI systems, like the Holley Sniper mentioned in a similar GM inline-six project, are designed to retrofit classic engines and provide modern fuel and ignition management. This upgrade can improve starting, fuel efficiency, and performance.


SIDE NOTE 1: Back when my 69 step side, running a 250 in-line 6 was my daily driver, I went to capacitive discharge ignition. The points lasted so long, the rider rubbing on the distributor lobes wore down enough the point dwell started dropping off daily, from the 50 mile round trip to work. Loved that simple, cheap solution to 7 amps at the points frying them (the capacitive discharge dropped the amperage down to 200 milliamps (.2 amps), so the point contacts stayed in good shape for a long time.

If the capacitive discharge had failed, all I had to do was reach in, unplug the wire to the distributor, turn it 180, plug it back in to bypass the unit. Went from there to magnetic pick up and all was fine there too. Maybe. That is, it might have been performance could have been better.


I love hot rods, but think of them as like grandchildren and other small creatures of that nature - that they go home with someone else makes them even more enjoyable.

My thing was mileage. I had 6 forward gears, an RV cam, headers, fiddled with the 1 barrel carb, switched to radials. . .

One day, doing my best to go from Seattle to Bremerton at a steady speed, I pushed near the 25 mpg mark. Have to wonder what I would have got with: (1) EFI, ignoring the idiotic recommendation of 28 PSI for the tires, adding the air dam, switching to then non-existent synthetic oil, adding ESD would have got me.

SIDE NOTE 2: A 4:13 rear end still allowed me to carry and pull significant loads, and to pass comfortably, while still getting good mileage in 3rd over.
 

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After a lot of reading about ESD's, I thought it'd be interesting to ask Perplexity if I could add ESD to my 4.1/250 six cylinder Jimmy. This is the answer I got:


CAN I ADD ELECTRONIC SPARK DISTRIBUTION [ESD] TO MY 4.1 (250) IN-LINE SIX CYLINDER ENGINE:

The 4.1 GMC straight-six engine is a classic, carbureted engine. Many owners upgrade these engines with modern electronic systems-such as electronic fuel injection (EFI) or electronic ignition systems-to improve reliability, performance, and drivability.

There are documented projects where enthusiasts have successfully added electronic fuel injection and even turbocharging to similar GM inline-six engines, using aftermarket kits like Holley’s Sniper EFI, which is designed to be adaptable to older engines.

These systems often include electronic ignition control as part of the package.


Yes, you can convert a classic GMC 4.1 six-cylinder from points-based ignition to an electronic ignition system. There are several aftermarket kits available for this purpose, which improve spark reliability and reduce maintenance.


Yes, you can add EFI to your 4.1 engine. Aftermarket EFI systems, like the Holley Sniper mentioned in a similar GM inline-six project, are designed to retrofit classic engines and provide modern fuel and ignition management. This upgrade can improve starting, fuel efficiency, and performance.


SIDE NOTE 1: Back when my 69 step side, running a 250 in-line 6 was my daily driver, I went to capacitive discharge ignition. The points lasted so long, the rider rubbing on the distributor lobes wore down enough the point dwell started dropping off daily, from the 50 mile round trip to work. Loved that simple, cheap solution to 7 amps at the points frying them (the capacitive discharge dropped the amperage down to 200 milliamps (.2 amps), so the point contacts stayed in good shape for a long time.

If the capacitive discharge had failed, all I had to do was reach in, unplug the wire to the distributor, turn it 180, plug it back in to bypass the unit. Went from there to magnetic pick up and all was fine there too. Maybe. That is, it might have been performance could have been better.


I love hot rods, but think of them as like grandchildren and other small creatures of that nature - that they go home with someone else makes them even more enjoyable.

My thing was mileage. I had 6 forward gears, an RV cam, headers, fiddled with the 1 barrel carb, switched to radials. . .

One day, doing my best to go from Seattle to Bremerton at a steady speed, I pushed near the 25 mpg mark. Have to wonder what I would have got with: (1) EFI, ignoring the idiotic recommendation of 28 PSI for the tires, adding the air dam, switching to then non-existent synthetic oil, adding ESD would have got me.

SIDE NOTE 2: A 4:13 rear end still allowed me to carry and pull significant loads, and to pass comfortably, while still getting good mileage in 3rd over.
What 6 speed trans did you use?
 

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What 6 speed trans did you use?
3 speed saginaw with overdrive. You could use 1 lo 1 high 2 low 2 high 3 low 3 high. You could also adapt that overdrive to a 4 speed saginaw for 8 gears
 

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