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It took me years to finally go and buy anything battery-powered, and even then I was hesitant to do so. I was overwhelmed with the amount of brands out there. The names I knew were Milwaukee, Dewalt, Kobalt, and the brands I'd never heard of was a long list. I didn't really do any research, I went with my gut and bought Dewalt, mainly because that's what I see contractor's using on a regular basis. That, and Milwaukee, but I still went with Dewalt. If it were me, I'd go with what will most likely be around the longest and will have the best warranty. I personally only have an impact gun, and an impact ratchet, but bought two extra batteries so I have three total, all 5Ah. The batteries are way more expensive than I expected them to be, so I wait for sales on batteries. What I have used the tools for, no complaints. Been meaning to get a sawzall for exactly what you used yours for, cutting up limbs if I get lazy and don't want to use the bow saw. Bow saw usually wins, though...lol...

Crap! I need to check my tool bag, I may have already bought the sawzall...lol...
Yea that was something else I thought about during the course of the day was staying power. I could get more into kobalt for a little less, but being a store brand I worry about it being discontinued. Same for the Metabo, it could go away at some point. But I’m pretty confident that dewalt will be around for a long time. Metabo would be easier, but dewalt may be the better overall choice here. Bonus points that the dewalt impact has better specs for less money than the Metabo.
 

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We a few years ago went all in on Milwaukee when they had a sale.
Watching our axle guy spin the head off of a left hand thread carrier bolt with ease is what sold us right there.
Since then we shop the pawn shops for the tools and have quite the collection of different tools and batteries.

I have a Bauer 1/4 inch driver from Harbor Freight that has done very well by me as well.
It is a brushed unit and one day in the junkyard I was trying to remove a bolt with it to no avail.
I went and grabbed the Milwaukie brushless 1/4 driver and that thing zipped that bolt right out with no sweat.

If you can swing them, buy brushless stuff all the way.
They are more efficient and powerful.

I won't get into the different brands, but yes indeed, brushless is where it's at.
 

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this is a good thread, and I am stuck with too many brands too.
Dewalt, old craftsman,
(weird,...my 35 year old 1/4" craftsman drill on a wire out-does everything, really fast model for drilling pilot holes, and lays torque,...worth pulling the a/c wire is it completes what a 20v dewalts 1/4" can't).

my old craftsman C3 stuff is still poking around, ...ni-cads are dead but they make new batteries for those. I have not used them in a long time. good for what I was doing back in the day though....really good for drywall type screws) ...the little trim circular saws are like useless though,..

20v dewalts I got on a holiday kit sale. (2 x 1/4 drills, 90 degree oscillating multi tool, and a little sawzall). I use them their, ...but always want more work than the can provide.

that little dewalt sawzall ....its seems like its strong, but boy is it slow....I was using it for trimming a fat sapling down flush to the ground last week. and it took like a minute to cut through 2" of trunk. its a handy trim saw to park next to drills in a bucket, but not quick like the bigger models....


bought some cheapo chinese things that go with dewalt 20v batteries though. a air hammer for pounding nails, which is nice for when you don't have enough space to swing the hammer, like for big old framing galvanized, ...and I got a little tire pump...not as great as my 12v d/c Viair that hooks to a car battery,...but handy enough to add a 5 psi to 8 tires before the battery is gone.
one of my professional mechanic friends has a couple great dewalt 20 volt ratchets. there are various sizes, the big ones put too much torque down. (he has some big dewalt demo drills too, like for taking to the pick pulls to pulverize rusty bolts)

and as nice as wire free is...a cheapo a/c wire job can still beat the crap out of 20v ...especially something for occasional homeowner use on a orange cord....(maybe put a peice of tape on the cord junction to keep it plugged in).

edit: and and with bigger batteries for outdoor power equipment look into inverters as a way to use them for more stuff than their manufacturer sells. (such maybe better than a little generator when trying to keep smaller drill type batteries filled,...like when you are hand carrying or wheel barrowing everything)
 
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I have a similar Metabo half inch battery impact gun, that I bought not too long after I got my Crew Cab (thinking about pulling 8 lugs off instead of 5, and I'm not getting any younger...). I went into Lowe's (closest big box store to me) and was looking through the tool section. Milwaukee, DeWalt, lots brands.... I'd heard about Metabo from a friend who does a lot of woodworking, and he said they're good tools. So I was looking at what they had, and some of it was marked down.... Talked with the department manager, and she sent me up with the impact gun, a battery, and a charger, all 18V, and I only had to give $65!!! And the charger is very intuitive to use, and it charges a dead battery in 30 minutes!
I take it when I go to the wrecking yard, and back in May I used it on 8 wheels before it got down to one bar on the battery meter. And these were nice and tight lugs, four of them on eight lug rims. I've used it when I have to work on my truck and pull a wheel, works great and it's not super heavy either. It usually stays behind the seat, on the tool ledge, ready for use when it's needed.
 

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Crap! I need to check my tool bag, I may have already bought the sawzall...lol...
Nope, no Dewalt sawzall in the tool bag, looks like I'm getting a new Sawzall and battery!
 

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Nope, no Dewalt sawzall in the tool bag, looks like I'm getting a new Sawzall and battery!
Check the Lowe’s app from time to time, they run a buy a tool get a free battery promo from time to time. Right now they’re offering that on the 1/2” impact and circle saw, buy the tool and get a free 5aH battery. I’m thinking about picking one or the other up this afternoon. If I do that’ll pretty much be the deciding factor.
 

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@goldpack Were you using a wood blade or pruning blade?
 

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Check the Lowe’s app from time to time, they run a buy a tool get a free battery promo from time to time. Right now they’re offering that on the 1/2” impact and circle saw, buy the tool and get a free 5aH battery. I’m thinking about picking one or the other up this afternoon. If I do that’ll pretty much be the deciding factor.
I do that, and also Home Depot and Tractor Supply. Might end up at HD because of gift cards, basically discounted or free
 

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@goldpack Were you using a wood blade or pruning blade?
wood,...did not know they made pruning blades, until this minute.
it worked, ...but slow.,....

did not want to pull out a chainsaw to just put the tip into the dirt,...
its good weather for brush hogging,...50s and after the first hard frost,... years ago I would have used a hand pruning banana saw. (but some days I feel too old for hand saws).
 

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My experience with DeWalt is good, but 2AH on a sawzall is small, especially if it isn't the brushless model. Brushless is great, and a bigger battery for the more power hungry stuff is a must. While the rating on a battery is technically the capacity, or how long it will handle a load, it is also very much related to how much amperage it can produce at any point in time based on battery quality. i.e. for the same battery quality, a 4AH pack can put out double the current of a 2AH pack, or, produce the same output current at half the heat generation. Grabbing some chinese 5AH or larger batteries should help your situation if you don't want to spring for the expensive packs, and keep the 1.5/2/3AH units for the drills, drivers, and small use stuff. We stick with 4AH and above for circular saw, grinder, or sawzall use, and all of those are brushless.
 

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And at these prices one can almost afford to experiment with 3rd party batteries, I just don't like leaving them on chargers unattended but that's with any Lipo battery:

 

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And at these prices one can almost afford to experiment with 3rd party batteries, I just don't like leaving them on chargers unattended but that's with any Lipo battery:

need to build a fire proof shed,...far away from my house for such aftermarket thoughts.

I don't have any aftermarket batteries. but when I am charging my OEM toro/greenworks/dewalt etc. sometimes I park them right in front of the TV so I a can watch them charge and unplug them when done.

my TV and computers are on UPS sine grade batteries,...so any blips and spikes in the AC power just get chewed up by that....and I don't have to wait for the TV / box / router to reload for a leaf passing the power lines. (winter would suck without them,...as it takes like 15 minutes to reload a cable box)
 

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No one has said it, so I’ll say it…Makita.

When I was in this very position trying to decide which way to go, I stopped at a tool repair shop and asked what they see the least of. They said, “Hands down, Makita.”

I asked if that was relative to the number of people who buy Makita vs other brands and they seemed to agree that it was still proportionately much lower.

That said, I do get some tools that are outliers to that rule. I like the price and function of the Atlas yard tools from HF. I’ve been running the $60 pole saw hard for a few years and it’s never skipped a beat. I also like the 80v blower. I still have yet to try their electric chainsaw, as my Makita 16” saw is fantastic. It gets used quite a bit more often when doing brush clearing and limbing because I do a lot of cut then walk to the chipper to keep a clear work area on slopes.

Makita also runs promos through certain retailers where they match batteries on purchases. For instance, I bought their hypoid saw kit with two 5ah batteries and two battery charger and they matched another two 5ah batteries for free. So for around $300 I got the tool I wanted, a two battery charger and four 5ah batteries.
 

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Yeah, that's another thing I've become more aware of, keeping track of my charging batteries. I've seen too many pictures of the aftermath of exploded lithium tool batteries. Thinking back to when I was a kid, my dad left his Ryobi batteries (blue and yellow Ryobi, that's how long ago we're talking, prob NiCad too) on the charger ALL THE TIME unless they were being used. No way now. I try to leave the charger on my toolbox, by the TV or near wherever I'm working so I can take it off when it's done or at least before I leave shop/go in the house
 

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