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I am finally getting around to charging the ac on my 79 c10. I put the 79 ac to the 84 cab and all that, it blows. I just need to wire the compressor back up.

But I need to ask, how much to put in? Do I need any oil? I was going to dump out and replace the oil in the compressor. Its a thin one for the serpentine kit.
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Also do I need oil in the rest of the system? The lines have all been disconnected for almost a year. And the system didnt have any charge when I bought the truck.
Its a 134a system.
 

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I am finally getting around to charging the ac on my 79 c10. I put the 79 ac to the 84 cab and all that, it blows. I just need to wire the compressor back up.

But I need to ask, how much to put in? Do I need any oil? I was going to dump out and replace the oil in the compressor. Its a thin one for the serpentine kit.
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Also do I need oil in the rest of the system? The lines have all been disconnected for almost a year. And the system didnt have any charge when I bought the truck.
Its a 134a system.
This is going to require math and research. I'd flush the system first. Then buy a new receiver drier( it gets replaced any time the system is opened) don't chang it yet. Change all the Orings to 134 Orings,charge the system up with 100lbs of compressed air,look for leaks everywhere with a spray bottle full of soap and water. No leaks good let the air out. Leaks? Fix the leaks.You need to look up oil and refrigerant specs for your truck,then we need to compensate for the different compressor and refrigerant type.You are going to need a vacuum pump and gauges. Look up quantities published for the year of AC you are using,post them so we can figure the differences. R134 will charge at a lesser amount than r12 and then the different compressor as well. Get the numbers we'll figure it out from there.Post pics of your compressor visible numbers preferably.
 

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This is going to require math and research. I'd flush the system first. Then buy a new receiver drier( it gets replaced any time the system is opened) don't chang it yet. Change all the Orings to 134 Orings,charge the system up with 100lbs of compressed air,look for leaks everywhere with a spray bottle full of soap and water. No leaks good let the air out. Leaks? Fix the leaks.You need to look up oil and refrigerant specs for your truck,then we need to compensate for the different compressor and refrigerant type.You are going to need a vacuum pump and gauges. Look up quantities published for the year of AC you are using,post them so we can figure the differences. R134 will charge at a lesser amount than r12 and then the different compressor as well. Get the numbers we'll figure it out from there.Post pics of your compressor visible numbers preferably.
I dont think my system has a reciver drier
 

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Also known as an accumulator.
Bruh. Mines like brand new

Anyway. On the googles it says 51oz refrigerant and 10oz net oil. Weather that is correct for my system? Idk

Im not shure if everything is empty of oil however.
 

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Bruh. Mines like brand new

Anyway. On the googles it says 51oz refrigerant and 10oz net oil. Weather that is correct for my system? Idk

Im not shure if everything is empty of oil however.
Okay the have a desiccant in them to absorb moisture from the system. When you expose them to atmospheric air for any length of time the absorb all the moisture that can from the air they are exposed to an then are used up. You said it was open for a year.
 

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Bruh. Mines like brand new

Anyway. On the googles it says 51oz refrigerant and 10oz net oil. Weather that is correct for my system? Idk

Im not shure if everything is empty of oil however.
Is that number quoted for r12?
 

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Is that number quoted for r12?
Your net charge should be 3.2 lbs (~51 oz) of R134a (or about 4.25 12-oz cans), plus 10 oz of refrigerant oil (6 oz poured directly into the compressor suction port, the balance poured directly into the accumulator).
 

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You will need to provide more information about exactly what you have, since it sounds like you may have parts from two different years.
To start:
1. Was it using R12/freon, or has ir been converted to R134a?
2. Take a picture of the compressor. It sounds like an R4.
3. If converted, what components and lubricants did they use? For example, PAG oil or Ester; stock orifice or swap from GM white to Ford Blue.

I also think you may have limited knowledge of working with A/C, since you thought you did not have a filter/drier, but it’s in the picture you posted.

It might be best to visit a shop and have them do it, but most have switched to R134a, since so few cars still have R12. Getting the vacuum pump and gauges to do your own work will add up, but gives you more flexibility.
 

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You will need to provide more information about exactly what you have, since it sounds like you may have parts from two different years.
To start:
1. Was it using R12/freon, or has ir been converted to R134a?
2. Take a picture of the compressor. It sounds like an R4.
3. If converted, what components and lubricants did they use? For example, PAG oil or Ester; stock orifice or swap from GM white to Ford Blue.

I also think you may have limited knowledge of working with A/C, since you thought you did not have a filter/drier, but it’s in the picture you posted.

It might be best to visit a shop and have them do it, but most have switched to R134a, since so few cars still have R12. Getting the vacuum pump and gauges to do your own work will add up, but gives you more flexibility.
Its a r4, it's been converted to 134, said that alrety, no clue what oil was used.
Yes im inexperienced, I call the drier and accumulator, had never heard it called that before.
Alrety have alot of the stuff needed to charge and vacume it.
 

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