Discussion in 'Off-Roading' started by TnSnapp, Dec 31, 2017.
I'm replying to my own post. Sorry I realize the OP was asking for MUD tire input.
But in post #5 the OP had said mud and snow. Your post of a BFG AT tire is a good option for him...
In fact I run BFG mud terrains in the summer then switch out to BFG ATs for winter use.
True mud terrains just suck for winter driving.
I strongly disagree with this. They are not all created equal. Those Widetrack tires I mentioned earlier were rediculously awesome in the snow. I mean spectacular. Far better than any AT type tire I've ever run in the snow.
They even had the provisions for studs.
I just bought a set of Falken Wildpeak MT 01 tires three days ago. We had snow the next day and they went really well. They should go really well in the mud. Now as for how long they will last? I have no clue yet. I picked them up at WM for $198 265/70-17. They come in other sizes too and these are 10 ply tires also.
^I agree with Andy. Mud tires do well in snow. They will clean slush quickly as well.
I guess I should change that... IF you ONLY drive in DEEP fresh snow or slush then they are ok. They can chew thru the deep stuff.
Unfortunately since you have to share the road with others they will pack it down. When the snow gets packed or when the temperature warms up to around 32 degrees mud terrains will not grip. Might as well have bald tires.
And if you add studs to a mud terrain then they do help stopping in icy conditions. But when there isn't ice and the road is dry then studs actually add to your stopping distance. The metal slides along the pavement.
There is a reason winter tires are loaded with as much sipes as possible. And most all terrains at least have some siping.
Here is a good test with real data. Mud terrains just simply don't grip as well.
I've spent 32 years in Montana with ranchers and loggers....they hate getting stuck or having tire issues.
I have to agree with 77 k20 on this one , I live in the snow country and mud tires are not the way. That being said the toyo mt's do way better than the km2's if you have to run a mud tire. I have a real steep drive way and I took my big bad chevy out to get some things and when I got home I could not get it back up the driveway even with weight in the back with km2's on it. Had to go back to town to buy sand to spread out in the driveway so I could park. The wife's subaru and our 4runner went up and down no problem.
I agree with you on some points, but not others.
But I will say that you can't lump all MT types together, or all AT types for that matter. Some are simply far better than others in certain scenarios. I've also driven in snow on 4 bald tires, I'd rather have a set of any brand MT tires thank you
Also, I think the newer style BFG mud terrains are a terrible tire. It's not very fair using them as the standard MT example anymore.
imo. if you want a mud/snow tire I would look at the bigger side lugs for mud and a tight center tread for snow , with sipe's in the tread , (good all around) . I would look at the dick cepek extreme country's , goodyear duratrac's or maybe the kelley safari tsr's , tread compound play's a part as well. I myself have two sets of tire's and wheels for all my car's because of where I live ,(unmaintained roads in the snow country) , that being said I swapped out my km2's and I can get up my driveway no problem now , tire's is everything in my book and I dont even care if they wear out fast , as long as they get me where I need to go , (I love buying new tire's) . Anyway it is hard to find one tire that does it all. On a side note my blazer made it up my snowy driveway with toyo mt's on it , but I had to hammer down on the skinny petal , so I guess they are ok for snow and mud as well.
Good luck and pick out something bad ass!!!!!!!
We just bought a set of those Dick Cepek's, they do have a similar tread pattern to the Duratracs, which is why I wanted to try them. The biggest difference I see is they have bigger shoulder lugs than the Goodyear, and the shoulder lugs are more scalloped too. No snow driving yet, but I expect them to do well.
I've had good success with Cooper SST Pros and Interco Iroks but I don't do much driving in the snow.
I've put over 3K on these Maxxis RZR tires. I had good luck with the Maxxis Buckshots and Maxxis Bighorns on a light Nissan hardbody pickup that I used to own (60k+ miles each set), and these were only $800 for a set. So far I really like them but haven't really tried any serious offroading with them yet.
Look like grounghawgs
Mickey Thompson Bajs
go with some toyo open country they got grip in sand mud snow my brother has them on his 3500 and he has no problem when he goes off road
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