Help with setting up timing on new cam/intake/dist/carb install

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Just finishing up my tbi to carb swap. Working this rig on the beach was the reason for the attempt to remove as much electrical as possible under the hood. The salt water environment has played havoc on my 1990 Dodge 3/4 ton tbi as every year I'm replacing corroded sensors.

Anyway, new cam (summit 0032, 204/204, .421./.421, 110 lobe separation) on a used Wieand Stealth manifold with Edelbrock Thunder AVS 650 cfm carb and new Hei.

I have the initial timing set at 10 degrees with vac unhooked. 17" of vacuum at idle. I checked today and got 28 degrees of total timing all in at 2000 rpm with no vac advance and, the timing did not increase after 2000. Hooking up the advance to ported vac, I get 40 degrees at 2000 rpm and no increase thereafter.

I know very little about setting up ignition timing but I've read enough to know that all this sounds like way too much timing way too early in the rpm range.

Where do I start? :)
 

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Maybe get a different distributor advance curve kit for your engine parameters
 

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Based on my experience, you don't have enough timing.

With a stock cam (195/202) and 8.2-8.4 compression I used 12 degrees BTDC at about 600 RPM, with the vacuum advance line disconnected. This is very typical for a low/stock compression SBC. I now have more cam (213/217) and about 9.4-9.5 compression, and it runs much better with 15-16 degrees BTDC. My mechanical advance is set up to add about 20 degrees by 2000 rpm, which is a good combination for performance with a moderate cam. That means I get about 35-36 degrees total by 2000 rpm. Most stock advance weights are slower to come in, so it may take 3000 rpm to get to full advance, but I think 2000 works better.

I used to have a vacuum advance that added 20 degrees, but recently switched to one with a max of 15 degrees. My total advance at light throttle cruise would be about 50 degrees, which does not cause pinging with regular gas and about 9.5 compression. Most references recommend keeping the total (base + mechanical + vacuum) to less than 54 degrees.

My recommendation would be to raise base timing up to 12 degrees and see how it works. Your mechanical is probably fine the way it is.

FYI - I also worked quite a bit with my Quadrajet to fix an off-idle bog after I switched heads and cam. However, the final fix was to bump base timing up from 12 to 15 degrees BTDC, which completely removed the bog.

Bruce
 

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