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Its a 82 Gmc 1/2ton 2wd 350ci. New Choke, new oil pressure sensor, new fuse. Do you guys have any ideas. The damn light just stays on(but if you unplug the choke it goes off).
Im hoping you guys get back asap, really need this solved.
 

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Inside the housing where the wire connects a thermal spring, check it and see if it is broken.
 

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Is it still the stock carb? The stock setup wasn't compatible with the electric choke on my Holley.
 

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choke is all brand new
 

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Tried adjusting the choke housing? I think you can loosen a couple screws and rotate the housing, see if that helps.
 

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The choke light is switched off when engine oil pressure is established (about 10 psig).

There are usually two oil pressure senders behind the distributor.

The one with the single stab connector is not the one to be concerned with. That one drives the oil pressure gauge on the dash. It's the one that looks kinda like a bell.


The other sender has 2 connection stabs - that's the one that energizes the choke heater and extinguishes the choke light on the dash (it also drives the low oil pressure light on vehicles without gauges).

Remember, the choke heater's function is to assist in pulling the choke valve open - not, as often believed, to close the choke.

As part of the earliest overall efforts to reduce carbon emissions (a choked engine exhaust gas is very high in hydrocarbons), it was decided to wire the choke heater to begin opening immediately after the engine was started. Using the establishment of lube oil pressure was a handy solution.

Check the dual connected pressure switch for proper operation.

Does the choke light go out if the lead to the heater is touched to ground?

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On most vehicles, an electric assist choke is incorporated onto the carburetor to aid in reducing the emissions of hydrocarbons (HC) and carbon monoxide (CO) during starting and warm-up (choke-on) period. The electric assist choke is designed to give a more rapid choke opening at temperatures of approximately 60-65°F., or greater and a slower choke opening at temperatures of approximately 60-65°F., or below. The electric assist choke system does not change any carburetor service procedures and cannot be adjusted. If the system is out of calibration, the heater control switch and/or choke unit must be replaced.
The main components of the electric assist choke system, Fig. 39, consist of a thermostatic coil, ceramic resistor, cover, bi-metal snap disc and contact spring. The electric actuated ceramic resistor heats the thermostatic coil, gradually relaxing coil tension and allowing the choke valve to open.
At air temperatures below 50°F., electric current applied to the small section of the ceramic resistor, allows slow opening of the choke valve for good engine warm-up. As the small section of the ceramic resistor continues to heat, a bi-metal disc causes the spring loaded contact to close and apply electric current to the large section of the ceramic resistor which increases the heat flow to the thermostatic coil for more rapid opening of the choke valve.
At air temperatures between 50-70°F., electric current applied to the small section, or both the small and large sections of the ceramic resistor, will produce the amount of heat required to control the choke valve position for good engine operation in these temperature ranges.
At air temperatures above 70°F., electric current applied to the small section of the ceramic resistor and through the spring contact to the large section of the ceramic resistor, provides rapid heating of the thermostatic coil for quicker choke valve opening when leaner air-fuel mixtures are required at warmer temperatures.

Diagnosis & Testing
Possible conditions for the electric choke not operating properly are listed as follows (use a voltmeter to check oil pressure and choke coil circuits):


1.Low or no engine oil pressure.
2.Faulty oil pressure switch.
3.No current to oil pressure switch due to:
a.Burned out fuse.
b.Broken wire to oil pressure switch.
4.No current between choke and oil pressure switch due to:
a.Broken lead wire.
b.Wire terminal not properly secured on coil terminal.
c.Faulty ground circuit between choke assembly and housing grounding plate.
5.Faulty choke coil assembly.
If it is determined that the choke coil assembly is inoperative, the following test must be made:


1.Remove choke coil from carburetor. After removal of choke coil, allow coil to cool to room temperature.
2.Connect a ``jumper'' wire between positive battery terminal and choke coil terminal assembly. Connect a second ``jumper'' wire between negative battery terminal and choke coil assembly grounding plate.
3.The tang on the choke coil should rotate 45°in 54-90 seconds.
4.If choke coil does not rotate or exceeds the 54-90 second time limit, replace choke coil.
5.If coil is within specification, check steps 1 thru 5 for possible cause.


And this - which is more specific to your issue. (Note - engine unit = 2 connector oil pressure switch):



Many trucks utilize a warning light on the instrument panel in place of the conventional dash indicating gauge to warn the driver when the oil pressure is dangerously low. The warning light is wired in series with the ignition switch and the engine unit--which is an oil pressure switch.

The oil pressure switch contains a diaphragm and a set of contacts. When the ignition switch is turned on, the warning light circuit is energized and the circuit is completed through the closed contacts in the pressure switch. When the engine is started, build-up of oil pressure compresses the diaphragm, opening the contacts, thereby breaking the circuit and putting out the light.

TROUBLESHOOTING
On some models, the oil pressure indicator light also serves as the electric choke defect indicator. If Oil or ENG. indicator light does not light, check to ensure electric choke is not disconnected at carburetor. Also check for defect in electric choke heater, blown gauge fuse or defect in lamp or wiring circuit. If indicator light stays on with engine running possible causes are: oil pressure is low, switch to indicator light wiring has an open circuit, oil pressure switch wire connector has disconnected or on some models, gauge or radio fuse has blown.
The oil pressure warning light should go on when the ignition is turned on. If it does not light, disconnect the wire from the engine unit and ground the wire to the frame or cylinder block. Then if the warning light still does not go on with the ignition switch on, replace the bulb.
If the warning light goes on when the wire is grounded to the frame or cylinder block, the engine unit should be checked for being loose or poorly grounded. If the unit is found to be tight and properly grounded, it should be removed and a new one installed. (The presence of sealing compound on the threads of the engine unit will cause a poor ground.)
If the warning light remains lit when it normally should be out, replace the engine unit before proceeding further to determine the cause for a low pressure indication.
The warning light will sometimes light up or flicker when the engine is idling, even though the oil pressure is adequate. However, the light should go out when the engine speed is increased.
 
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I had the same thing. Turned out I was low in oil. When I put more in the light stopped. Not sure how that works tho
 

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I had the same thing. Turned out I was low in oil. When I put more in the light stopped. Not sure how that works tho

The choke light is hooked up to the oil pressure sensor. (low oil= light comes on, i found that out on my monte)
 

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Oh and btw, this topic is solved, it was a faulty fuse....
 

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Wait a minute - let me get up on my soapbox. Okay here it is again:

Never check for continuity across a fuse while it is still in the circuit. The meter will always show continuity.

And never eliminate a fuse as the root cause of an electrical issue based solely on visual inspection - pull it out of the circuit and use a meter.

If the fusible link in the little window is broken/melted, well then, it goes without saying - the fuse is bad.

But the converse does not apply. In other words, the visible portion of the link may appear to be intact but it might still be broken.

People get sick of hearing me saying it (read: my son) - but it is always prudent to check fuses with a Fluke or by switching with a known good one - before tearing things apart.

When you think about it - it makes sense. During it's lifetime, some fuses take a beating.

They get violently yanked out with needlenose pliers, screwdriver tips, twisted by fingertips etc and then they are shoved/wiggled back in. Depending on the circuit, this can occur dozens of times.

The greatest stress on the encased fusible wire occurs at the ends where it connnects to the stabs. These connections are not easy to see.

As soon as that joint starts to grow thin due to mechanical stress, resistance/heat increases across the fuse and it fails.

The visible, arched shaped, part of the fuse - the part in the middle window - is only reliable in detecting instantaneous failures due to high current.
 

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Dam that's alot of good info Jerry.
 

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