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Work in Process -502 Big Block Swapped 5 Ton K5 or as i call it "K5ton"

Discussion in '4wd Suburban, Blazer and Jimmy' started by Vbb199, Jan 13, 2018.

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    hows it going everyone? new guy here. been stalking the site for a bit, decided i'd stop being a lurker and join the party!
    i posted this over in the diesel swap area, but another member told me to throw it up in "under construction" so i figured id post here, with lots of potato quality photos, exhilarating right?

    as it says in my "about me"......

    PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR PISS POOR SPELLING AND GRAMMAR LOL

    Current Project is a 90 k5, used to be on 3/4 ton axles, with 46s and 15" of lift, 2x4, tbi 350 with a th400.
    ive torn it down to the ground to build a 5 ton k5.
    plans are: 5 ton rockwells, 24v cummins, nv4500, 2.5 ton transfer case, 24" of lift, 53" tires, and full hydraulic steering. ***boxed frame*** as well to hold all that together.
    so far ive gotten:

    24" lift
    53" goodyears
    5 ton rockwells (6.44 gears)
    2 piece hemtt wheels
    the k5 (of course)
    picking up the 2.5 ton transfer case this weekend (poor man's SCS)
    lots and lots of odds and ends bs thats not worth mentioning......

    yeah, itll be a big pos, but before i make any moves and "throw" axles and tires under it, motor has to go in first! i dont own a lift or overhead gantry for this, i just have access to tractors... i know what youre thinking.."OH GOD! not another backyard billybob build" and to that, i say, yes, another one of those.....

    i need power to get this big girl rolling. so i decided on the cummins, cheapy alternative to a duramax i guess (no offense intended).

    i wanted the 24v because of the "on the fly tuning" as opposed to the reliable P pump 12v, as ive read, with a upgraded lift pump, she'll serve me well, found a decent deal on a whole running and driving 01 dodge 3500 4x4 with the 24v (no shes not the cursed #53 block) and some auto trans. Whole truck comes from a older gentlemen friend of mine who left it bone stock, and had it serviced regularly, as well as had the transmission rebuilt a time or two, big surprise :rotflmao: (ALL of it going right back no CL once ive robbed it of all the parts i want)

    SO.....
    i lack the 24v (saving money atm) and i lack the 2wd nv4500, as well as brackets, clutch stuff, etc etc etc

    I came here to the website to dig for info, maybe someone can give me pointers.
    im sure ive missed some crucial information thats needed here, and i'm positive ill catch alot of hell for all of this, which is cool lol

    so, my question to all you gentlemen/ladies out there: what all is involved in the 24v swap with the dodge nv4500? my questions here are really only pertinent to the actual engine swap not the other bs with the truck, but i had a question or 2 about the nv4500...

    so..... ive read...... buy brackets, bolt and weld, or cut them out of the dodge, mod the frame to adapt factory ones, cut some off the front crossmember to clear the bottom pulley, and like "MAGIC" its in the truck. i KNOW theres more to it than that. whats the purpose of the crossmember that comes with the swap kits???? added support? i see clearing the AC pump is a pain in the butt because it hits the frame, you can either relocate to the middle, or remove it all together..... probably will remove it(who needs AC right?), what all is needed to setup gauges, lights, all that good stuff? what about the pump power? theres a right and wrong way to do all this i guess, wrong way i would imagine is dropping it in, wiring tons of autozone gauges in, buying 100 toggle switches and putting the pump on the ignition's switched power :rockit:. i imagine its alot more in depth to set it all up correctly, and still maintain the basics in the beloved squarebody.... necessities are as follows: gauges, speedometer(i heard someone snicker), headlights, taillights, reverse lights, and all the "stuff" needed to make the cummins run. how does one setup the hydro clutch for the dodge manual in a chevy k5? oh, and did i forget to mention? the cummins has 170k on it, what all servicing is needed before dropping it in? i saw crank seals, oil pan gasket, kdp....... what else?

    i know its a lot to read, but i figured instead of shooting 100 posts back and forth, why not include it all in one big post? ill have more questions, no doubt, and heres a assload of photos for "visual purposes" :anitoof:
    thanks everyone, hope to meet some cool people on here
     
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    photo dump incoming:
    1: is when i first got it, i just took it because i thought i was cool, idk, its ok to laugh. for reference, im 6 foot 5 inches tall, so i was kinda high up
    2: when i got some doors on it
    3: hadnt done much, tore the bumper off, and spray painted the whole thing one uniform baby shit green
    4. cool side shot, as she sat, with a blown 350
    5: read shot, cool right? (not really)

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    1: pulling the tbi 350 with the tractor! boy what a freakshow!
    2. after pulling motor, i had went and picked up a fairly clean suburban, 91 all factory
    3. i decided to spray paint it army green, kinda better than baby shit green
    4. another shot
    5. axle incoming! a dana 70HD out of a k30, and a dana 60HD out of a 03 super duty, the rear end was already cleaned up prior to the photo. i orignally was going to run 1 tons, big 1 tons

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    1: some guy.. me... sitting next to a motorless k5, sexy right?
    2:side shot, after pulling trans, motor, interior and all out.
    3: pulled it up to my house with my s10, and parked it. it was time to pull axles wheels and tires out
    4: a shot of the tiny little 10 bolt that was screaming for help
    5: front axle out, 14 bolt, say goodbye!

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    1: pretty pathetic, sitting on blocks, no motor, no trans, no shafts, no axles, no interior, just a body and frame
    2: orignally decided on a hot little 12:1 383 stroker... would be cool right? yeah idk, i started building it. originally wanted 1 tons with a 383, changed my mind again
    3:another shot of the 70hd after diy disc brake conversion
    4: a side shot of the 60HD after cleaning it up...
    5: 46's were all loaded up, ready to sell, i was brining home 53's that day!

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    1: 53's and HEMTT wheels all loaded up, ready to take home, as they say, go big or go home!!
    2: after i got home, i was sick of wrestling around heavy ass wheels and tires, so i threw it all in the yard, the HELL with it!
    3: fast forward a few weeks, i went and picked up the 5 tons, we got them all unloade and on blocks
    4: another shot of the 2 piece hemtt wheels, cool right? (yeah yeah whatever)
    5: good year at2 53's

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    1: another shot after turning the heavy "basstads" up right
    2: started tear down, to check seals and bearings and all. "my, my, what a big shaft you have!"
    3: whilst in the teardown process, i started doing debraking too.
    4: another shot of the debraking process, i was working on it after work, on free days i had
    5: shitty rubber boots. surprisingly, the front axle looked like it had been serviced somewhat recently~

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    1: tore it all the way down, did more rustoleum paint jobs, who cares?
    2: front was assembled, with what needed replacing, and painted, assembled, repacked with grease, just lacking disc brakes, which ill be doing in the future.
    3: another shot of the front
    4: front was done, moved onto the rear axle. (youll notice beer in alot of the pics, most everything in my life is fueled by miller lite, or whiskey
    5:a big heavy pile of shit that came from debraking the 5 tons, i think my friend got 20$ with his 200 pounds of scrap for all that?

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    1: axles complete, minus the rear hubs being flipped out, which ill worry about later. oh and if anyone is wise enough to notice the front has no lug studs, thats because i pressed them out lol
    2: new axle boots, this shouldve gone higher up. oops
    3: completed, greased, etc etc, STILL NEED TO FLIP THE REAR HUBS OUT!!

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    Your gonna flip the front hubs right?
     
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    im going to start with both front and rear hubs flipped out, see how it looks, if it looks stupid, ill flip them in
     
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    That will be pretty wide. Street driven?
     
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    yes, or at least im going to try. max height in NC is 13ft 6in, max width is 103 inches, by my calculations, with hubs out, itll be at 101 inches wide with tires. only regulation thatll affect me is headlight height, which im going to try to just get by on, until im wrote a ticket. theres a few other trucks in the area, that arent as tall as mine will be, but, their headlights are over the legal height, and they havent gotten ticketed, cops here in salisbury are more concerned with drug activity in the city, and less with redneck boys on 53's and 5 tons :anitoof:
     
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    Mount a pair of plow lights in your bumper.
     
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    another guy mentioned it to me, i may try that, looks ugly, but whatever
     

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