6.2 cooling system/serpentine upgrade

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What are the benefits in upgrading/converting a 6.2L engine with a serpentine system?

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Joseph

The benefits include:

1. Higher flowing water pump for better cooling performance
2. More responsive fan clutch
3. Fan moves so much more air over the engine now
4. Serpentine belts last longer than V-belts
5. No belt squealing because of the tensioner
6. If you have ever had to change out a v-belt alternator or power steering pump then you know what a pain it is to remove two or more belts by first loosening up all the components, then re-tightening everything up
7. You can use upgraded compoonents like a higher amp alternator to run more electronics
8. Parts are still being made today
9. Aesthetics. To me, it simply looks better as everything lines up together via the brackets. No more having to wonder why the hell the alternator bracket is sticking out too far now as the brackets mount flush to the block and the components to the brackets.

There are more benefits but its really late...or early at this point. If I remember I'll add them up.
 

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so we have heard all the advantages what about the disadvantages? first let me say that I use my truck for extended prospecting trips in remote areas so above all I want ease of repair and reliability. so the reason I like v-belts is redundancy. on a serp belt if you loose any one thing you are dead in the water. a v-belt system can absorb the failure of one component and keep going. also I have an on board air compressor this was easy to incorporate into a v-belt system. also serp belts can slip and whine just like v-belts. my v-belts don't slip and whine. also I find the life expectancy is the same. also there is a high volume water pump for v-belts. so there you go, just wanted to point out there a pluses and minuses to everything. highdesertranger
 

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so we have heard all the advantages what about the disadvantages? first let me say that I use my truck for extended prospecting trips in remote areas so above all I want ease of repair and reliability. so the reason I like v-belts is redundancy. on a serp belt if you loose any one thing you are dead in the water. a v-belt system can absorb the failure of one component and keep going. also I have an on board air compressor this was easy to incorporate into a v-belt system. also serp belts can slip and whine just like v-belts. my v-belts don't slip and whine. also I find the life expectancy is the same. also there is a high volume water pump for v-belts. so there you go, just wanted to point out there a pluses and minuses to everything. highdesertranger

When it comes to ease of repair, a serpentine belt replacement is hands down the faster and easier of the two. All that is required is breaker bar and a new belt, at least for my system. No need to bring out the tool box to loosen component bolts or remove belts to replace another belt followed by reinstallation of all the belts and realignment of all the accessories and hope everything is tightened correctly.

When I have to replace my belt it will automatically be tightened to a proper tension by the tensioner. Yes, tensioners do wear out, as do any other moving parts on a vehicle. This is why a serpentine system does not usually have belt squeal unless there is something wrong in the system like a worn tensioner or glaze on the belt. So yes, they can slip and whine, but it is much less likely. Having a constant tension on the drive belt system ensures that as the belt ages (stretches) there is still a proper amount of tension to drive the accessories, unlike in v-belt drive systems. There is no tensioner to provide adjustments to each belt as they wear so it has to be done manually. If a belt is not properly maintained it causes the wonderful squealing and improper gripping of accessories which causes heat. Heat and drive belts have never been good friends as heat leads to premature failure. Serpentine belts are thin and can dissipate heat more easily than v-belts. With no maintenance to a vehicle belt system it is more likely that a v-belt system will fail before a serpentine system on the same engine. With proper maintenance a v-belt can have the same lifespan as a serpentine system but it requires constant manual adjustment.

But with proper preventative maintenance you never have to lose a belt. After working on both types of systems, if I had to break down in the middle of snow storm in the dead of night with either a v belt system or serpentine system with a broken belt and all necessary parts and tools to fix both, I would choose the serpentine system every time. Yes, if my one belt breaks I'm stuck until I pop the hood and replace it with a spare I have.

As for a high output water pump on a v-belt 6.2, there are only a few options out there for v-belt applications which is why I went with the serpentine based water pump.

To break this down:
Ease of repair and maintenance...Serpentine.
Redundancy...V-belt
Low maintenance...Serpentine
Dependability (lifespan)...Equal if v-belts are adjusted as they age, otherwise it goes to the serpentine system being more dependable.
 

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What about cost/time of the conversion? And ease of doing it/finding parts... It seems like you've had problems locating the right parts, but shouldn't there theoretically be a list of the correct parts as 6.2's should be the same? just curios for a possible future upgrade
 

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Did you ever find the right coolant crossover/thermostat housing ?
 

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Bringing back this old thread.
Im so glad i found this because i thought i was the only one doing it.
Im doing the same EXACT thing right now.
I have a 6.5 in my 88 suburban that was swapped but they kept the original v belts and brackets from the 6.2.
Squealed and belt dust everywhere. I bought a kit from a 99 and everything was going well until that damn crossover tube.
I found one off a P30 motorhome that MAY work without alterations. I have the mechanical injection pump and had the Cruise control mounted to that. It was in the way of the new compressor location, so it had to go.
I live in florida so want a modern ac compressor, and everything was routed to have it on Drivers side and Alt on passenger.
Heres a pic of the crossover tube that hopefully will work with minimal fabrication. Will update when i receive it and installed.
 

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Bringing back this old thread.
Im so glad i found this because i thought i was the only one doing it.
Im doing the same EXACT thing right now.
I have a 6.5 in my 88 suburban that was swapped but they kept the original v belts and brackets from the 6.2.
Squealed and belt dust everywhere. I bought a kit from a 99 and everything was going well until that damn crossover tube.
I found one off a P30 motorhome that MAY work without alterations. I have the mechanical injection pump and had the Cruise control mounted to that. It was in the way of the new compressor location, so it had to go.
I live in florida so want a modern ac compressor, and everything was routed to have it on Drivers side and Alt on passenger.
Heres a pic of the crossover tube that hopefully will work with minimal fabrication. Will update when i receive it and installed.

Did you change the water pump?
 

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Yes I did.
The guy that sent me everything included the pump. Its the higher flow reverse rotation with pressed on pulley.
His truck was a ‘99.
I had to order the reverse flow backing plate though. In hindsight I wish i bought a new pump because of how entailed it is to install but this one seemed fine and weep hole showed no signs of leaking.. (this projects getting pricey so im needing to save where i can)

I got the crossover tube installed and the thing fits exactly as it should. I was really pleased that it came out fitting perfectly with the only mod needed was re routing the steel fuel return hose a bit.
The thermostat inlet does angle up a bit and im concerned itll chafe or rub on the hood when closed. But seems to shut fine. Ill probably have to make a custom upper radiator hose.. no biggie.
Heres a pic of the crossover installed.
 

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What is the part number off that crossover tube? I’m in the same situation, I have the identical pulley system mounted from a 1997 van, I was thrilled to see a recent post on this topic matching my project 100%
 

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