Let's entertain something for a moment...big block in a c10 + lifted/lowered hate lol

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They came with factory big blocks in the 70s. Really nothing to do except replace coils if it’s too squishy after dropping the rat motor in.
Pickups make schitty go fast cars though unless you just like to do burnouts (who doesn’t?).
I can’t keep the back end straight on the 86 off the line or kicking down to 2nd on wet pavement. That’s with aired down 35s and the 3rd most anemic 454 they made.

But it would be fun!


The kinda power I'm wanting to apply to the tires will require a small load of bricks in the bed and fat wide tires
 

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The kinda power I'm wanting to apply to the tires will require a small load of bricks in the bed and fat wide tires
Relocate a Blazer gas tank to the back = 250lb hidden ballast when full of fuel. I like where you're headed.
 

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Relocate a Blazer gas tank to the back = 250lb hidden ballast when full of fuel. I like where you're headed.


Since the plans would be to run EFI (hint hint), I would have to run a blazer tank in the back anyways for the 60psi fuel pump that fits in a 87-91 sender.
 

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A big block with aluminum heads and intake doesn't weigh much more than an all iron smallblock.
And a 572 weighs just about the same as a 454 (aftermarket block is heavier).
 

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I feel compelled to tell you that shitcanning is the only option and that you would be better off with a LS swap.

Weird. I dont know why i would spew something like that.

I feel gross.

Let me feel. She's coming around boys!
 
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A big block with aluminum heads and intake doesn't weigh much more than an all iron smallblock.
And a 572 weighs just about the same as a 454 (aftermarket block is heavier).


This is bigger than 454 I'm putting in.

Not to mention, I saw the weight numbers on the shipment.
 

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Some C10's came stock with 454's. Other than the obvious coil upgrade would possibly the brakes. I'm assuming the 454's would have the thicker rotors up front.

Here's an example like this Cheyenne Super 10.
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/d/los-gatos-1974-chevy/7188341933.html
Should be the same as any C10, besides one with manual brakes (JB1). JB3 AND JB5 systems both use the same 1.25 thick rotors. Only difference between the two is 2" vs 2.75" brake shoes.

Manual brake (JB1) trucks got 1" rotors.

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Should be the same as any C10, besides one with manual brakes (JB1). JB3 AND JB5 systems both use the same 1.25 thick rotors. Only difference between the two is 2" vs 2.75" brake shoes.

Manual brake (JB1) trucks got 1" rotors.

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For a young guy your very knowledgable!
 

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This is bigger than 454 I'm putting in.

Not to mention, I saw the weight numbers on the shipment.

Up to 598 cubic inches can be built using a passenger height deck aftermarket block. This is EXACTLY the same size as any 454. Easy to get 750hp+ on pump gas...try that with a 454!

Do some more research instead of believing shipping numbers.

Tell us more about this blue-sky pipe dream truck. To make a truck truly fast and competitive, you're going to need a wheelbarrow or two full of cash. It doesn't stop when you drop the engine in. Matter of fact, that's when the spending really starts to get out of hand.

How much power are you looking to make out of this 454? Streetable, 625hp or so is about it for a stock stroke. More than that requires solid roller valvetrain and all the expensive parts that go with it.
 

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Up to 598 cubic inches can be built using a passenger height deck aftermarket block. This is EXACTLY the same size as any 454. Easy to get 750hp+ on pump gas...try that with a 454!

Do some more research instead of believing shipping numbers.

Tell us more about this blue-sky pipe dream truck. To make a truck truly fast and competitive, you're going to need a wheelbarrow or two full of cash. It doesn't stop when you drop the engine in. Matter of fact, that's when the spending really starts to get out of hand.

How much power are you looking to make out of this 454? Streetable, 625hp or so is about it for a stock stroke. More than that requires solid roller valvetrain and all the expensive parts that go with it.

Yes, 454 is the baseline for all motors up to a certain C.i.

Its a gen6

Total weight of shipment was 800.
Im subtracting about 100 pounds because if the thick pallet it was on from the place in Virginia.
The drive train I've already assembled and sold my soul to obtain.
It'll be coming out of my k5 I mentioned.
502ci, aluminum heads, 290cc runner, hydraulic roller top end, forged bottom end, msd ign, holley super sniper efi, stage th400 from a 4x4 shop in florida built for 600hp (I'm gonna add a manual valve body, didn't pay for that at the time), I'll put in the k5 tank and sending unit, as well as presumably fuel lines to feed the efi 60 psi.
4 core radiator (502 runs at 208° with just rad)

Rear end will be a D60 or 14b, I'll remachine my own hubs to accept 5 lug wheels. Thinking a 3.73 gear for the rear end.
Either that, or throw a **** ton of cash at a well built 10 bolt with thicker shafts and a beefier carrier..

Would like true posi in the rear.
4 wheel disc, probably move up to a stouter booster than the stock 1/2 ton.
Would like to swap front coils as I mentioned.

Most all of these aforementioned parts I already have EXCEPT the rear end.

I come from a total 4x4 offroad/mud/trails background, I know NOTHING about racing, but I know how, and I have the equipment right the driveway to fab and machine, as well as weld whatever I may need.
Might I also add, a investment in a rear driveshaft that won't blow up would be necessary, but I have several rear shafts with 1350, and 1410 yokes on them, were build for big tire 4x4 apps.


Not looking to race competitively for cash, I feel like in some ways that's more costly than 4x4 **** . Just wanting to have fun on the street, maybe once in a while take it to the track for a pull
 
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I've got a handle on what it takes for a 4x4 to survive, and REALLY, it's all based on what tire you're running IMO.

You build your ride based off what tire you wanna run, at least that's how I look at it.

When it comes to going fast, I feel like it needs to be based off of the less weight, the better, and what kind of power output you'll have.



Concepts are the same ideally, I know that much : traction.

Either you need to survive traction on the road with stout parts, or you need to survive traction WITH slipping and getting a tire bound up, offroad.
 

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Endgame here isn't to have the fastest 1/4 mile time, because that's not extremely realistic in a brick, I'd want something a little more aerodynamic, or a whole hell of a lot more power than what my motor makes to move that heavy bitch down the line that quickly

I just wanna have fun
 

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